Next 10 years

[yan]

Clandestine, I feel for you brother! And believe me if things stay like this I wont be taking Finasteride for much longer!

I only took it hoping that one of these upcoming treatments will manage to halt my hairloss without the need to alter my hormonal chemistry! It seems however, MPB is a far more complicated disease than any of our scientists ever imagined!

BTW, I will definitely change my terminology...thx for pointing it out

Exactly my thoughts. I just wait for CB phase 2 results (March 2015), then decide to wait for release or if CB fails, I consider to shave and leave this forum forever. I mean it makes really no sense to take FIN another 5 to 10 years after 2015, only to wait for true HM. Another treatment is not in sight or not promising enough.

And to be honest, its even hard to think about taking FIN another 4 years and I only take twice a week 0.25mg like Desmond. I hate me everyday for taking it. My libido is down + my gf is really hot = just wtf am I doing. She would never leave me even if I shave, she doesnt care that much. Its only me, no one would care. Is it worth to live 4 years in my twenties with a low libido? One of my best friends is nearly bald, but dude he looks like Ljungberg, his libido is so damn high and he meets girls every weekend. I go out with him with hair on my head, but my libido is so low, I dont even mind to flirt with other girls. Just WTF

[Phatalis]

I think the best approach is to no longer follow upcoming treatments TOO CLOSELY! There is really not much happening until 2020! Just live our lives and hope for the best!

Find a girl that doesn't care about your hair and I'm sure there's tons out there (but most probably passed the age of 25)

Get married have kids and hopefully sometimes in our lifetime we'll have what we've been wishing for!

Hair transplants at this point are a no go for me personally as we don't have an unlimited donor supply (unless you are willing to take Finasteride for the next 10+ years, which some do...)

Scarless FUE is irrelevant when your hairloss can still progress without fin! Even Gho is NOT able to to completely restore a NW5 without running out of donor hair at this point in time!

HTS to restore the front frame.. and shave so you have that darker shade to it is better than the horseshoe look.. regardless if you go bald between.

HT's are still worth it IMO

[Arashi]

I think the best approach is to no longer follow upcoming treatments TOO CLOSELY! There is really not much happening until 2020! Just live our lives and hope for the best!

Find a girl that doesn't care about your hair and I'm sure there's tons out there (but most probably passed the age of 25)

Get married have kids and hopefully sometimes in our lifetime we'll have what we've been wishing for!

Hair transplants at this point are a no go for me personally as we don't have an unlimited donor supply (unless you are willing to take Finasteride for the next 10+ years, which some do...)

Scarless FUE is irrelevant when your hairloss can still progress without fin! Even Gho is NOT able to to completely restore a NW5 without running out of donor hair at this point in time!

The improvement in the next few years will only come in the HT industry. Dr Nigams just did a very interesting test, Dr Mousseigne will start a 50 graft test this wednesday, so those will be interesting to follow. If someday (hopefully soon) regrowth of 80% really can be achieved (and documented/proven properly), then that's going to be a huge breakthrough.

But yeah, other than that, the (near) future looks quite dark ...

[Desmond84]

I think the best approach is to no longer follow upcoming treatments TOO CLOSELY! There is really not much happening until 2020! Just live our lives and hope for the best!

Find a girl that doesn't care about your hair and I'm sure there's tons out there (but most probably passed the age of 25)

Get married have kids and hopefully sometimes in our lifetime we'll have what we've been wishing for!

Hair transplants at this point are a no go for me personally as we don't have an unlimited donor supply (unless you are willing to take Finasteride for the next 10+ years, which some do...)

Scarless FUE is irrelevant when your hairloss can still progress without fin! Even Gho is NOT able to to completely restore a NW5 without running out of donor hair at this point in time!

[Desmond84]

The problem with that approach is that our fathers, grandfathers, etc., never came to terms with hairloss.

If men in the old times still struggled with hair loss, I don't see how you can expect young men in a more shallow world to accept they are going bald

All hope is not lost, but I don't look forward to wait until I'm 50 for something that can really regrow hair

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[Desmond84]

Nah, I still have faith in Jahoda et al, Desmond ! They're way ahead of Team Tokyo (after having implanted that bio generated follicle onto human skin). But still, also probably 6-10 years away...

Yeah, but Arashi just doing Phase 1-3 + Approval takes 6-7 years! Don't also forget, they still have to complete their proof of concept studies which is another 2-3 years! This makes their product release date somewhere around 2023!

Aderans may pick up on this new discovery and give it a shot but I doubt it...they seem beaten and bruised!

[bigentries]

It's time to come to terms with hairloss I suppose! Just like our fathers, grandfathers, etc...

<SIGH>

The problem with that approach is that our fathers, grandfathers, etc., never came to terms with hairloss.

If men in the old times still struggled with hair loss, I don't see how you can expect young men in a more shallow world to accept they are going bald

All hope is not lost, but I don't look forward to wait until I'm 50 for something that can really regrow hair

[Arashi]

It's time to come to terms with hairloss I suppose! Just like our fathers, grandfathers, etc...

<SIGH>

Nah, I still have faith in Jahoda et al, Desmond ! They're way ahead of Team Tokyo (after having implanted that bio generated follicle onto human skin). But still, also probably 6-10 years away...

[Desmond84]

It's time to come to terms with hairloss I suppose! Just like our fathers, grandfathers, etc...

<SIGH>

[Arashi]

Aderans: looks more like a failure than a success, unless proven, I would not expect them to reach anything

Replicel: got a lot of money. Still 5 years to see if that was worth it. Another 5 years if it is succesful to reach the market. So a long way

Histogen: Done. Let's be realistics, it's intercytex all over again

CB: The only real option to have a treatment in 5 years, even if it is in acne form

PGD2 Blocker, Lauster, Tsuji: Theory. Theory is not going to regrow your hair in 10 years. Might turn in the treatments of the future, but they are still theory

I think so too, similarities with intercytex are striking. I doubt Histogen will find an investor, based on these results, and then it's just game over Histogen.

[The Alchemist]

I hope not. But look at it lol.

CB is really it. CB and some HT's... that's what we got.

HT's with greatly expanded donor supply will be the next big thing. I don't feel it's anything to scoff at. If transplants can routinely be accomplished with 10-20k grafts (provided the tech gets to that point), then i think that will be very good for all except the most extreme cases of balding. Anyone NW5 or less would be set.

I'm not a huge fan of transplants, i think even the very good ones look just a little "off". But, they certainly look a lot better than having a slap head.

I don't believe the cellular approach will pan out. Aderans and Replicel are both struggling with it.

Histogen ...meh

Follica...dead

It's been an enlightening year for us. I didn't think a year could be worse than 2012, in terms of hair therapy, but, here it is.

Lets see what the French guy can do and maybe Nigam hair doubling, or the other guy going underneath the skin for grafts. That's about it, unfortunately.

[clandestine]

No worries bratha, I'm just venting. A little mad, as we all are at this point.

All the best.

[Desmond84]

Desmond mate; Not unwilling. No.

Those unable. There are those of us who have been willing, have taken fin, and have been proven unable. Many of us cannot tolerate finasteride, and other DHT blockers. We're left with few options.

Sorry, but this distinction is terribly important.

Clandestine, I feel for you brother! And believe me if things stay like this I wont be taking Finasteride for much longer!

I only took it hoping that one of these upcoming treatments will manage to halt my hairloss without the need to alter my hormonal chemistry! It seems however, MPB is a far more complicated disease than any of our scientists ever imagined!

BTW, I will definitely change my terminology...thx for pointing it out

[bigentries]

What are our thoughts now on the next 10 years?

Aderans: After tweaking their Ji Gami formula 11 times over 6 years and 450 trial subjects they have NOT released one decent photo! They have also been in silent mode for the last 8 months!

Replicel: There's a lot of uncertainties about their potential and as we have learned, they still have a lot to show before we can believe in them!

Histogen: Although a decent therapy, it will not be a stand-alone treatment. A DHT inhibitor will still be required.

CB-03-01: Probably the most realistic treatment to halt hairloss in the coming years! Yet, we still don't know its side-effect profile as it is a "steroid" and may have potential side effects particularly when used on a long-term basis!

PGD2 Blockers: No one is really working on releasing these for hairloss!

Lauster: Moved on with microchip technology!

Tsuji Team: May become available in the next 10 years BUT there's a lot of work to be done! For example, where are they going to grow the hair germs before implanting the newly formed hairs? In mice, they injected it in the kidney's of mice...what will be their growth medium for humans?

Aderans: looks more like a failure than a success, unless proven, I would not expect them to reach anything

Replicel: got a lot of money. Still 5 years to see if that was worth it. Another 5 years if it is succesful to reach the market. So a long way

Histogen: Done. Let's be realistics, it's intercytex all over again

CB: The only real option to have a treatment in 5 years, even if it is in acne form

PGD2 Blocker, Lauster, Tsuji: Theory. Theory is not going to regrow your hair in 10 years. Might turn in the treatments of the future, but they are still theory

[Phatalis]

Ai ***** off, we might not be.

I hope not. But look at it lol.

CB is really it. CB and some HT's... that's what we got.