Sept 2012 patent: Natriuretic Peptides shows terminal hair growth in weeks

[hellouser]

Oh yeah, had forgotten about that little scam.

Still, if nothing major comes of this, if there really are a measurable amount of velus hair growth experienced by some users in such a short space of time, that is a positive sign. If true.

Cetirizine was not and is not a scam. It was purely homemade and experimental.

[Boldy]

Cetirizine was not and is not a scam. It was purely homemade and experimental.

Cetrizin is a mast cell stabilizer, instead of a crth2 antagonist, cox blocker or anti androgen. still don't know why people thought it was useful to treat androgen alopicia with it . it doesn't hit on the essential paracrine factors.

[mm05035]

DON'T get to excited, it are no Terminal hairs.






indeed, my whole (yes whole) skin is shedding white folks (Old Epithelial cells.) skin regeneration and nail grow is very fast.

after 3 days quitting its getting back to normal. (not trying to scare you guys, this is just my experience and no other one (of the 15 people on private forum) experience this.

Its not so surprising, I think you guys know by know that I'm very sensitive for drugs. That is why I'm currently fulltime into Cell based therapy research. Its my only way to safe my hair without experience terrible sides.

I hope you guys can profit from this drug.


Goodluck

i know they are not terminal hair but its only 2 weeks. i think its exciting

[Boldy]

i know they are not terminal hair but its only 2 weeks. i think its exciting

Don't get false hopes or so as well.

whatever you guys do. don't use it on its own, a basic anti androgen or crth2 antagonist or cox blocker, should be combined as basis to HALT the aga progress.

I might sound pessimistic but we should stay objective and realistic here.

[oppenheimer82]

thousands of new baby hairs?omg i am gonna cry!
thanx for the reply

hahaha, there, there, stop crying my child. if those hairs stay baby hairs, then this treatment is not of much help. so like boldy said, much more patience is needed!

[MrBlonde]

DON'T get to excited, it are no Terminal hairs.






indeed, my whole (yes whole) skin is shedding white folks (Old Epithelial cells.) skin regeneration and nail grow is very fast.

after 3 days quitting its getting back to normal. (not trying to scare you guys, this is just my experience and no other one (of the 15 people on private forum) experience this.

Its not so surprising, I think you guys know by know that I'm very sensitive for drugs. That is why I'm currently fulltime into Cell based therapy research. Its my only way to safe my hair without experience terrible sides.

I hope you guys can profit from this drug.


Goodluck

I get a similar effect on MSM & VITC, lots of skin buld up and flakieness around the hairline.

You quit after 3 days after this side affect If this is the worst sides experienced then sign me up. Skin shedding is natural so it just a increased process like the quick hair growth you get with MSM.

But thousands of small hairs. Thousands? I find that hard to believe until I see pics. Thousands is a HT afterall. I presume it was an over exaggerated summary in a state of excitement.

None of your news scares me, rather it makes me happy but I still have that sinking feeling there is a catch somewhere. From this forum we have learned that nothing goes into your system without a side of some sort. You trade one positive effect for another usually horrible one such as a limp pecker or an aged face.

This is a topical and by the looks of it you don't need to be on it long term.

Actually how long did the growth from the study stay above the baseline?

[oppenheimer82]

I get a similar effect on MSM & VITC, lots of skin buld up and flakieness around the hairline.

You quit after 3 days after this side affect If this is the worst sides experienced then sign me up. Skin shedding is natural so it just a increased process like the quick hair growth you get with MSM.

But thousands of small hairs. Thousands? I find that hard to believe until I see pics. Thousands is a HT afterall. I presume it was an over exaggerated summary in a state of excitement.

None of your news scares me, rather it makes me happy but I still have that sinking feeling there is a catch somewhere. From this forum we have learned that nothing goes into your system without a side of some sort. You trade one positive effect for another usually horrible one such as a limp pecker or an aged face.

This is a topical and by the looks of it you don't need to be on it long term.

Actually how long did the growth from the study stay above the baseline?

boldy is one of the most knowledgeable and decent persons, i have ever seen. the guy is pure logic and reason. when he says that A LOT of vellous hairs were spotted, then A LOT of hairs were spotted.

[mm05035]

boldy is one of the most knowledgeable and decent persons, i have ever seen. the guy is pure logic and reason. when he says that A LOT of vellous hairs were spotted, then A LOT of hairs were spotted.

for how long are the users gonna try this treatment?the study suggested 21 days.are they going to do the same?

[The Alchemist]

boldy is one of the most knowledgeable and decent persons, i have ever seen. the guy is pure logic and reason. when he says that A LOT of vellous hairs were spotted, then A LOT of hairs were spotted.

They said the same thing with Cetirizine when that got started. Even had some pretty convincing photos showing lots of vellus growth. Unfortunately, that's where the party ended. Nine months later and we've got nothing to show from it. Not sure why the vellus growth occured but, it seems to happen with a lot of new do it yourself treatments...the iron dragon indo stuff is the latest one. Makes me wonder if it's related more to an observational effect i.e. where the act of close inspection brings to light things that were being overlooked/missed before, such as vellus hairs.

They're claiming new terminal hairs in a few weeks, so, i guess we won't have to wait too long to get an answer on this.

[oppenheimer82]

They said the same thing with Cetirizine when that got started. Even had some pretty convincing photos showing lots of vellus growth. Unfortunately, that's where the party ended. Nine months later and we've got nothing to show from it. Not sure why the vellus growth occured but, it seems to happen with a lot of new do it yourself treatments...the iron dragon indo stuff is the latest one. Makes me wonder if it's related more to an observational effect i.e. where the act of close inspection brings to light things that were being overlooked/missed before, such as vellus hairs.

They're claiming new terminal hairs in a few weeks, so, i guess we won't have to wait too long to get an answer on this.

cetirizine is a cox inhibitor. bnp-32 works on a whole different level. i think with cetirizine people mostly were experiencing results based on placebo and from my understanding, it did not grow vast amounts of hair after just a fortnight. but again, we have said this many times before, please remain calm, we still don't know whether those hairs will turn into terminal hairs or not. patience is the key word here.

[oppenheimer82]

for how long are the users gonna try this treatment?the study suggested 21 days.are they going to do the same?

it really depends on the person. for instance, one could be very sensitive to this treatment, so obviously that person will significantly cut his days of treatment by 60, 70 or 80 %. but yes, it would be logical to follow the suggestions made in the study, which includes the vehicle method as well.

[mm05035]

does anyone know how much are they using every day?
and what about the frequency?once or twice per day?

[Boldy]

does anyone know how much are they using every day?
and what about the frequency?once or twice per day?

http://www.google.com/patents/US20120238498

[Pentarou]

I'm sorry this didn't work out for you Boldy, but godspeed and good luck with your current research undertakings.

[MrBlonde]

I'm sorry this didn't work out for you Boldy, but godspeed and good luck with your current research undertakings.

3 days on it and he quit. It's not a case it didn't work out for him but it wasn't givn the chance to work out for him.

I realise he is a senior member of the forum and generally well respected and he quit for his own personal reasons, which is fine. I just don't want people thinking it failed him which it may be read into that way from your comment.

It is too early to tell yet, mainly its only positives so far actually.