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  • JulioGP
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 293

    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    Then why was cob getting sides?
    He did blood tests? Maybe the side effects have been cause psychological, placebo effect.

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    • ryan555
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 428

      Originally posted by StayThick
      This product does not work. I'm glad I did not waste a dollar on this scam.

      The possibility of lowering DHT without side effects is ridiculous. This product does not lower DHT because it doesn't work, there is no side effects because the product simply does not work
      Well some people did claim to have sides. And though you could be correct, you should not proclaim any treatment a scam (or a success) if you haven't tried it. You're just speculating.

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      • Jcm800
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2614

        Bart told me himself that no one he has treated face to face at their clinic has reported sides taking this stuff. But also said it's possible as some people react even to vitamins.

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        • StayThick
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 624

          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
          Then why was cob getting sides?
          I like Cob as much as the next guy on here, but even he would admit he has tried many products majority of which he experienced sides with.

          He seems very sensitive to anything he takes, especially androgen blockers as Propecia caused many issues with him.

          You just don't know if these capsules caused what he's experiencing or other treatments he currently is on.

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          • Jcm800
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2614

            Damn I get a bad feeling I've just made a second error of judgement ordering this, fck fck oh fck, please someone have bloods that show changes..

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              I don't know. I'm not currently on Keratene. I've used it in the past (the serum, not the capsules). I've held an affinity for Keratene as I feel they are a no-bullshit company with a clinical trial backing and some doctor recommendation.

              Dr. Arvind being one of its advocates;
              Originally posted by Dr. Arvind
              Dear Balki and ven,

              No, I am not paid to post for keratene or propecia or minoxidil or any other hairloss medications.
              I spent years studying the effects of various hairloss medications out of curiosity as well as on patients' requests. Only when I found something working for my patients, I decided to share my experiences with others as I have done over the years.

              As for "conflict of interest", the only conflict of interest for a hair transplant doctor would be any medication slowing down/stopping hairloss and thus doing away with the need for hair transplants.

              Lets not get into conspiracy theories.
              Regards,
              Dr. A


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              edit: hair.site

              and others;
              Originally posted by AZGUY64
              As I follow a post made by Dr. Arvind about a new DHT lowering product (Keratene Retard) I have contacted some other Drs. to find out more.
              I contacted those that attended the FUE Europe Meeting where Keratene Retard was introduced.

              Here are the results so far-
              » Dr. Arvind : good product, uses it in his practice.
              » Dr. Lupanzula : are familiar with the product, just started to offer.
              » Dr. Peter Hajduk (ex Gho Praag) : starting to offer to their patients as of november 2012. Also noted 'so far their clinical studies look very good'.
              » Dr. Heitmann : convinced it will work, also offers it.
              » Prohairclinic : started offering to our patient, solid clinical study and presentation. They are also conducting their own 'clinical' test at present.

              None of them have patient results, but it does seem that they do believe in this product.
              http://www.*************/hair-loss/f...id-110587.html

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              • JulioGP
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 293

                One of the things that made me buy and have the security of the test was Kératene its clinical trial with patients, even though it was short term, and the product is aimed at people who seem to understand the subject, even where there is specific labeling for who knows what is the value of DHT. But I was surprised by the fact that there has been minimal change in DHT.

                Honestly, I could not understand what happened. The only thing I know is that I took the capsules religiously every day and it was done not just one, but two blood tests for confirmation.

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                • ajays
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 90

                  Hi Julio,

                  I am unable to see your results. Can you please post them again?

                  Thanks

                  Originally posted by JulioGP
                  My friends,

                  I have good news and bad news. The good news is that my exams left.
                  Everyone knows here that I never had an interest in promoting any product, let alone pass a false impression in the use of these, then, I expose the test conducted by me, but do not discount the possibility of a user have different results, even finding it difficult to happen, because it is a clinical examination.

                  I will contact the company to find out what might have happened.

                  I used the Kératene for 26 days(and I'm still using), 1 capsule daily. In the 1st week wore morning and from 2nd week, for convenience, I use it at night before bed.
                  On the 26th day, I made an examination that included testosterone and DHT and with the same sample, which was ordered held separate consideration only the DHT (to make sure the blood test). Exactly, two tests were made to not have bugs! The laboratory is reputable, trust fully.
                  Here are my results:




                  The change in testosterone for more possibly has an explanation. I was consuming almost 1 Liter Soy Milk and this consumption was suspended about 1 month prior to this test, ie, as the sole milk is rich in isoflavone and I have eliminated their consumption probably rose because my Testosterone to it (said by endocrinologist and I agree).

                  As I said before, I did not have any side effect, something kind of obvious because I did not have any change of DHT, incidentally, came well risen slightly but this change is considered normal.

                  Simply the product did not work, no change in DHT levels, very strange considering the many studies conducted by the company.

                  So, I await the result of friends (AAsuited and others) who are testing the product.

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                  • ajays
                    Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 90

                    ryan,

                    What are your current DHT levels? Also, when are you expecting your new tests to be scheduled/out?

                    Thnaks

                    Originally posted by ryan555
                    That sucks that it didn't work. I find it very suspect that every single person in their study supposedly had results but no one seems to actually be able to reproduce such a result. I will be posting my results soon. I know for a fact that finasteride had a drastic effect on my DHT so if this doesn't move the needle, I'm calling it a very elaborate scam.

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                    • Jcm800
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2614

                      HARIRI are you still thinking this stuff is helping you? Does anyone think it's helping? Feeling like a bloody idiot for ordering this at the moment.

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                      • shredder
                        Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 46

                        Originally posted by JulioGP
                        One of the things that made me buy and have the security of the test was Kératene its clinical trial with patients, even though it was short term, and the product is aimed at people who seem to understand the subject, even where there is specific labeling for who knows what is the value of DHT. But I was surprised by the fact that there has been minimal change in DHT.

                        Honestly, I could not understand what happened. The only thing I know is that I took the capsules religiously every day and it was done not just one, but two blood tests for confirmation.
                        julio,

                        this is bad news indeed - on behalf of everyone here, thanks nevertheless for taking the tests. have you considered taking 2 capsules instead of one (remember, the trial was performed with 2/day) and then testing again? I mean, you have nothing to lose now, have you?

                        shit, i this doesn't work then I don't know what to do either.

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                        • Jcm800
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2614

                          Double post.

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                          • Jcm800
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2614

                            Yes Julio, for sure - thanks first and foremost. I just feel like a mug for not waiting on your results before ordering.

                            Now, Bart said to me I should take a capsule am and pm due to the product having a 12 hour half life, perhaps it would have a baring if you took two?

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                            • Jcm800
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2614

                              But part of me wonders whether he suggested taking two daily just to deplete my supply quicker and order some more..

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                              • ajays
                                Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 90

                                I am surprised by the results posted by julio. All I can say is that I have definitely seen improvements in my hair while on Keratene, though I do not know my DHT levels as it is very difficult to get them done through my medical insurance here. I am eagerly looking fwd to ryan's results now.

                                Maybe it's better to take 2x/day instead of 1x/day - no idea.


                                Originally posted by Jcm800
                                HARIRI are you still thinking this stuff is helping you? Does anyone think it's helping? Feeling like a bloody idiot for ordering this at the moment.

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