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i took one dose of this about two weeks ago before bed and i was rocked by fatigue the next day. really dazed and out of it. haven't taken it since, but as i said earlier i'm waiting for propecia gyno to clear before starting another dht blocker.Comment
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I ordered the shampoo and have been using it for a week now (3 times). I have noticed a massive shed of vellus hair, I want to stop using it because I'm scared my scalp will start showing more. Would the vellus hair grow back? I asked the rep at keratene if people get a shed from the shampoo and he said not really but everyone is different.
Has anyone used the shampoo and got a shed? And if so, how long does it last, do the hair grow back?Comment
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I think DHT is fairly important for the physical performance levels of men - My fatigue levels have improved now. I might not be the best case to go off though for a few reasons; I haven't taken fin before, but I think I may be one of those people who don't suffer the fin side effects. In terms of Keratene apart from a couple of days of fatigue I've really had zero change in my body.Comment
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I have minor fatigue with taking one capsule a day. Im just wondering what will happen if I will upgrade it to the recommended dose (twice a day). Anyone noticed increased Fatigue when increasing the intake from once to twice a day???Comment
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Been on this for nearly 3 weeks and I have seen a noticeable thinning of my temple points in the last few days - the hairs here were/are miniaturized already so Im hoping its a DHT lowering induced shed?
Anyone have something similar happen? Will these grow back? Im off for a HT next week and its all hairline work so these hairs growing back would be preferableComment
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i have also lot a lot of hair on my left temple, its very disturbing, i dont think this is a shed though and im stressedComment
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Friends who are testing the Kératene and know a little of these reactions.
In your blood tests was no change in testosterone levels? In tests published by the company, the testosterone levels did not change even with reduction of DHT. Where did the testosterone?
In other words, if no testosterone is discarded and LESS DHT was produced, how it will not have more testosterone in the blood?! Where did that would transoformar Testosterone to DHT?!
Weird and am trying to find a technical explanation for this. Does anyone know the answer?Comment
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I've been using Keratene capsules 1 a day for about 7 weeks and over the last week I've developed some nipple pain - sort of tender & sore. Could this be the beginning of Gyno? I've also been using RU for about 11 weeks so which could be to blame because Keratene is supposed to be side effect free? I've had no other sides.
Thinking of reducing the dose...maybe 1 capsule every 2 days and only 1ml of 5% Ru instead of 1.5ml per day. Any thoughts?Comment
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New member here, been on this for almost a month since Propecia gave my slight gyno around the 4 month period.
Hard to say whether it's working or not, the doctor ****ed up my initial blood tests so I have no reference value for "before". Gonna stick with it another month and see.Comment
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I got off Propecia at around the end of Feb/early March, I would say my gyno went down slightly in the incoming weeks (it was never a huge deal to begin with--puffy nipples and some growth, but I could tell that if I didn't get off of Propecia, it could definitely become a full blown case).
Since being on it, I still have puffy nipples (the test for this being that my upper body looks considerably more sculpted after a cold shower) and slight fat around the chest area, but I wouldn't say that it's increased.
Again though, I think the blood tests are crucial here which is why I'm pissed that I didn't get them done the right way the first time. I've read the official study and all the participants had high initial DHT values, so if you have that, I think Keratene should work well for you, I do believe it's pretty safe based off my limited experience so far.Comment
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The guy you emailed doesn't know the answer. I emailed him about your enquiry:
"I was wondering how the product Keratene Alphaactive Retard works without affecting T levels? I have read a response from a similar inquiry, posted here:" If you prevent the reaction between the sources (5ard and T), you prevent the formation of DHT, and as such you “reduce” the DHT level.
However, this does not automatically mean that you reduce T or 5ard.
In fact, you simply prevent a chemical reaction from happening, without affecting the sources.
In other words, the product does not affect the sources, because it’s not needed.
It only prevents a chemical reaction between the sources. "
However, I do not understand why limiting a chemical reaction would not still lead to increased T levels? Regardless of whether you are inhibiting the enzyme 5ard or not allowing a reaction to occur, the net result would be increased T, would it not in comparison with people in whom the DHT is produced? It'd be great if you could shed some light on this."
and his response was:
"in terms of liner logic, your statement seems to be correct.
However, the production of T is regulated by different mechanisms.
The chemical reaction you describe has zero impact on the actual levels of T.
For our tests, the level of T remained clinically unchanged, by this meaning the differences between it before and after levels comply with the limits which are considered biologically normal fluctuations, between tests.
You should contact a university professor of endocrinology or a endocrinological biologist that can offer you a more literal and adequate explanation."
In other words, the trials showed no change, so he is assuming there is no change in T levels: this could be (and in fact WAS) true given the smaller reduction in DHT, but the explanation is not known by him. Still, not really bad news given the trial, but you should obviously be wary of side effects.Comment
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