KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[ajays]

Cob,
Sorry to hear the problems you are facing. Sincerely hope things will get better for you.

Have been using it for around 6 weeks. I can cautiously say that I feel my hair quality is getting a tab better. Also, when my hair was thinning rapidly, I could "feel" the weight on my head (due to hair) getting lesser and lesser - you know what i mean. Since starting on this I am no longer getting that feeling. Having said that, I have a long way to go, I am not ready to declare victory yet, need to give it atleast 3 months or more. I recently upped the dose to 2x/day, no obvious sides as yet.

Over to our other correspondent...Hariri....

Guys How are the rest of you responding to the capsules hair wise?

I just wrote to keratene customer service and got the most ridiculous answer which doesnt inspire confidence of any kind.---See responses below

I have no idea why, can be an immense number of factors.
Simply quit the therapy and use something more conventional.

Yes, indeed, it seems the product does not really help in your case (it can happen actually) and in this situation it’s best to consider other options.
There are other products on the market that might help, eg. Priorin vitamins or the amino acids ampules from Crescina Switzerland. You could give them a try...
Regarding DHT management, you can try some new, experimental substances or even enroll in some clinical trials in India or Asia. Usually such events are posted on medical forums of the endocrinology faculties or university hospitals. I guess it’s worth looking into this detail.

[abrorcasanova]

Been on the pills for a month or so, started quite good, no sides no nothing.
Unfortunately and quite stupidly started at the same time with Minox! So about retention cant really say, because I am still losing/shedding hair lost quite a bit of density. But after second week, I started to have really loww fatique, really cloudy head everyone pointed that I am not really present or look just plain tired and I felt like it. Stopped the pills just for now to check if its the pills or minox that somehow affects me.

But as said before never seen any reduction in hairloss unfortunately.

[ajays]

Yeah - better to try one at a time to see which one is giving you the sides. The symptoms you mentioned, I was getting exact same ones on minox. After a while I also started getting puffy eyes and skin rashes. Stopped minox completely and was back to normal in 2 weeks. People around me really could tell the difference.

Been on the pills for a month or so, started quite good, no sides no nothing.
Unfortunately and quite stupidly started at the same time with Minox! So about retention cant really say, because I am still losing/shedding hair lost quite a bit of density. But after second week, I started to have really loww fatique, really cloudy head everyone pointed that I am not really present or look just plain tired and I felt like it. Stopped the pills just for now to check if its the pills or minox that somehow affects me.

But as said before never seen any reduction in hairloss unfortunately.

[shredder]

guys,

let me give you a short update: I started using the topicals (shampoo + ultra complex) at the end of january. as you can see from my previous posts I was pretty pleased with the products, as my hairloss seemed to lessen, and my hair simply felt great (most of the time). no sides at all.

about a month ago, I started taking the capsules (1/day) in addition to the topicals, and from week 2 onwards, I noticed that my hair loss increased again; particularly, I also noticed a loss of shorter hair from my temple region. a week ago, I increased the dose to 2 capsules every other day (i.e., 2 on monday, 1 on tuesday, 2 on wednesday, etc), and by the looks of it, this makes me shed even more. also, I now have very very minor discomfort in my groin area (it isn't really painful, and compared to what I experienced when I tried fin, it's nothing, but I just feel "something"). libido has definitely not been affected by the capsules, no erectile problems, not at all, maybe even the contrary.

I'm now wondering: can the increased shedding be a sign that the capsules are actually working, similar to the well-known "fin-shed"? looking at the hairs that I am loosing, they are not minaturized or anything, mostly just normal hair of medium thickness. has anyone asked the keratene guys whether or not a shed like this can be expected when taking the capsules?

[Cob984]

Thats exactly like me mate shredder, i too started the topicals first and was very pleased, but things have gone downhill since,
My temples are taking an absolute beating and also the hair that i lose is not miniaturized either,
I dont know whether to drop this yet and restart saw palmetto and just work with the topicals and perhaps get on RU as well

[shredder]

cob, hmm, I think the main question is whether or not this shed is a good sign...I'm also torn between going back to the topicals-only strategy or continuing for another month.

have you asked the keratene guys about the shed?

[Cob984]

You can see how the keratene customer service responded in my recent posts,
quite ridiculous to be honest

[ajays]

shredder,
Reg the shed, I had mentioned this some 10 days back on this thread (http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpos...&postcount=445). Note that I have being seeing a minor shed only while in the shower. Since last morning I am seeing some reduced shedding. Hopefully, it will keep on reducing and stop in the coming weeks. Let's keep each other updated.

Reg question to keratene guys on the shed, as expected I did not get a clear answer. They just said it's possible for some guys to get a shed similar to other DHT reducing products. Frankly speaking, I was not expecting any definite response as I think none of the doctors or representatives out there will tell you for sure if the shed is a positive shed when they recommend fin, minox, keratene etc etc. No body wants to stick there neck out...

guys,

let me give you a short update: I started using the topicals (shampoo + ultra complex) at the end of january. as you can see from my previous posts I was pretty pleased with the products, as my hairloss seemed to lessen, and my hair simply felt great (most of the time). no sides at all.

about a month ago, I started taking the capsules (1/day) in addition to the topicals, and from week 2 onwards, I noticed that my hair loss increased again; particularly, I also noticed a loss of shorter hair from my temple region. a week ago, I increased the dose to 2 capsules every other day (i.e., 2 on monday, 1 on tuesday, 2 on wednesday, etc), and by the looks of it, this makes me shed even more. also, I now have very very minor discomfort in my groin area (it isn't really painful, and compared to what I experienced when I tried fin, it's nothing, but I just feel "something"). libido has definitely not been affected by the capsules, no erectile problems, not at all, maybe even the contrary.

I'm now wondering: can the increased shedding be a sign that the capsules are actually working, similar to the well-known "fin-shed"? looking at the hairs that I am loosing, they are not minaturized or anything, mostly just normal hair of medium thickness. has anyone asked the keratene guys whether or not a shed like this can be expected when taking the capsules?

[FearTheLoss]

shedding those miniaturized hairs is a good sign, they will grow back stronger.

[shredder]

@Feartheloss, but that is the problem, the hairs that I see are NOT minaturized. if they were, I would not be really concerned...but seeing HEALTHY looking hair falling out, well...

@cob and ajays well I just decided to give it another month...

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

so no one had any results yet?

funny because it's supposed to lower DHT more than Fin and as some would know it's not unusual to see results (albeit not visible) in a matter of weeks on Fin

[Cob984]

I feel like im starting to lose an insane amt of ground,
I just cut my hair today and wow, i can see patches now, im shocked,
I feel like the last 3-4 weeks my hair is in freefall again,

How are the rest of you guys doing

[Jairus]

Cob I have been on it for about 16 days and I have seen an improvement in hair texture and fullness. HOWEVER I started biotin at the same time so it may be down to that. Will keep an eye on it.

Do u reckon 1 pill a day is enough? I have been receding for 11 years and Im only NW2.5 so its slow. I didn't get my DHT levels tested prior to commencement but I will prob leave a gap and start again to ascertain the % of reduction.

Keep in mind the patches may be induced shedding as a result of DHT reduction.

[Cob984]

Hey longwayhome, have you got your RU Yet, how are you reacting to it?

[burtandernie]

Im more and more thinking snake oil with this even if maybe it works in small amount of cases. Its certainly not any kind of big breakthrough and the evidence it works is still unconvincing at best.