KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[everest13]

The only reason I am even considering Keratene capsules is because Fin destroyed my libido and gave me gynecomastia (man boobs). So if your family is concerned about the safety profile of Keratene, they should know that Keratene exists as an alternative to people who cannot take Finasteride due to side effects.

That being said, I took Finasteride for 6 years with minimal side effects, and maintained my hair for the most part. Unfortunately, in the 7th year, for whatever reason, everything went to hell. I love what's left of my hair, but man boobs are unacceptable.

I personally would start on low doses of Finasteride (.25mg every other day) and work my way up to about .5mg a day. See if you can tolerate it. If you can't, switch to Keratene. I'm not sure Keratene is something I would start with, particularly because it is as of now unproven whereas tons of people use Finasteride effectively. If Finasteride doesn't work you can always come back to Keratene. Just my 2 cents...

I have booked a DHT test to see how much of a difference keratene made on my DHT levels. If I decide to switch to finasteride, should i stop taking keratene for an entire week, so that my DHT levels can go back to their normal levels again and then take finasteride?

[ajays]

everest13, Hariri
If you don't mind my asking, what were your original DHT levels?

Thanks!

I have booked a DHT test to see how much of a difference keratene made on my DHT levels. If I decide to switch to finasteride, should i stop taking keratene for an entire week, so that my DHT levels can go back to their normal levels again and then take finasteride?

[everest13]

everest13, Hariri
If you don't mind my asking, what were your original DHT levels?

Thanks!

Mine were 312 pg/ml. within the normal range.

[HARIRI]

everest13, Hariri
If you don't mind my asking, what were your original DHT levels?

Thanks!

Mine is around 1500 pg/ml, According to Keratene Company they mentioned in their website...
"1) DHT level between 849 and 1673 pg/ml, 1 capsule per day,
in the morning between 8 and 9;
2) DHT level higher than 1673 pg/ml, 2 capsules per day, one capsule in the morning"

So taking one pill a day seems fine to me

[everest13]

I've decided to make the switch to generic finasteride cut into fifths (1mg).
Because my dht levels were 312 before starting keratene, i dont know how much its reduced it by. Should I go off keratene capsules for 1 week for my levels to stabilize again, or should I switch straight to fin?

[Conpecia]

I'd take a week off.

[HARIRI]

I agree with Conpecia, take a week off and have your DHT levels checked.

[LongWayHome]

Alright people, I'm off the capsules.
When I was using fin I had a very nice side effect: shrinkage. (yea, that)
At first I thought it's my imagination and said "that doesn't even make any sense.." but then when I touched it I could feel something's weird...
Then I stopped fin, and started Keratene, and yay the same thing...
Most people get sexual side effects, well then I'm with another one.

I'm still on the topicals though, and going to start RU soon, hopfully that combination (with minox but that's not new) will give me at least maintenance.

Anyway good luck to all of you who don't get this one of a kind side effect.

[Cob984]

i have the same one lol , but i dont care as long as i can still get it up,
please let me know how RU works and if and what sides you get, iv tempted to try it

[HARIRI]

Alright people, I'm off the capsules.
When I was using fin I had a very nice side effect: shrinkage. (yea, that)
At first I thought it's my imagination and said "that doesn't even make any sense.." but then when I touched it I could feel something's weird...
Then I stopped fin, and started Keratene, and yay the same thing...
Most people get sexual side effects, well then I'm with another one.

I'm still on the topicals though, and going to start RU soon, hopfully that combination (with minox but that's not new) will give me at least maintenance.

Anyway good luck to all of you who don't get this one of a kind side effect.

Sorry to hear this LongWayHome, Did you try to reduce your intake from 2 capsules a day to 1 capsule a day before you quit it???

Also you said that you are planning to start RU58841 along with Minoxidil. Which RU strength are you going to use? 1% or 2% or 5%??? Shalom Bro.

[ajays]

LongWayHome,

Sorry to hear that. For how long were you on the capsules? Did you get in touch with Keratene to check if they have any suggestions. So far they say they havent got any feedback of sexual side effects.

Can you help me on the topicals (shampoo + serum)? Are they worth it? I am currently off minox and considering these as topicals.

Also, can anyone recommend a good natural/organic shampoo? The one I use right now makes my hair very greasy. I am already using Nizoral twice a week.

Alright people, I'm off the capsules.
When I was using fin I had a very nice side effect: shrinkage. (yea, that)
At first I thought it's my imagination and said "that doesn't even make any sense.." but then when I touched it I could feel something's weird...
Then I stopped fin, and started Keratene, and yay the same thing...
Most people get sexual side effects, well then I'm with another one.

I'm still on the topicals though, and going to start RU soon, hopfully that combination (with minox but that's not new) will give me at least maintenance.

Anyway good luck to all of you who don't get this one of a kind side effect.

[Cob984]

LongWayHome,

Sorry to hear that. For how long were you on the capsules? Did you get in touch with Keratene to check if they have any suggestions. So far they say they havent got any feedback of sexual side effects.

Can you help me on the topicals (shampoo + serum)? Are they worth it? I am currently off minox and considering these as topicals.

Also, can anyone recommend a good natural/organic shampoo? The one I use right now makes my hair very greasy.

The shampoo + serum is good, but i dont think its enough standalone, I think even the folks at keratene will tell you, the capsules are way more effective and necessary to combat balding long term,
i used the topicals only for a month and while they are good i still lost some ground, the capsules make the real difference,
but i think the topicals are a v good capsules addition

[ajays]

Thanks Cob984 ! Yes - I am already on the capsules for last 18 days or so. No sides so far. I am planning to try out the topicals this week.

The shampoo + serum is good, but i dont think its enough standalone, I think even the folks at keratene will tell you, the capsules are way more effective and necessary to combat balding long term,
i used the topicals only for a month and while they are good i still lost some ground, the capsules make the real difference,
but i think the topicals are a v good capsules addition

[Conpecia]

i have the same one lol , but i dont care as long as i can still get it up,
please let me know how RU works and if and what sides you get, iv tempted to try it

Cobb, any news on the gyno? Gonna order the capsules this week.

[Jcm800]

i have the same one lol , but i dont care as long as i can still get it up,
please let me know how RU works and if and what sides you get, iv tempted to try it

You mean your pecker has shrunk as well cob?