KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[Tracy C]

no what wer saying is tracy is a moron because everything but fin is garbage...

I am not even close to being a moron.

I have never said everything but Finasteride is garbage. I want to see good quality unbiased evidence to support these claims. I am not seeing any. Why am I not seeing any? Because there isn't any good quality unbiased evidence to support these claims.

You are very gullible. I have some ocean front property in Montana that I think would be perfect for a buyer like you.

[Cob984]

I am not even close to being a moron.

I have never said everything but Finasteride is garbage. I want to see good quality unbiased evidence to support these claims. I am not seeing any. Why am I not seeing any? Because there isn't any good quality unbiased evidence to support these claims.

You are very gullible. I have some ocean front property in Montana that I think would be perfect for a buyer like you.

Can you ****ing shutup? How am i gullible if i have tried the products? Do you read posts? idiot
At this point i dont need a study telling me whats legit and what isnt, i have been experimenting long enough to know

[shredder]

just for the record: I will try the topicals for 3 months (started on Jan 22, 2013).

If I don't experience a reduction in hairloss, or any other improvement, I will try the capsules.

[LongWayHome]

Good luck shredder, and tell Krang hi for me please, ask him if his body is still bald, I heard he's on the big 3 now.

And Cob - don't get angry, this is a try and if we'll fail then whatever, if not than hurray,
someone has to test it and this time it's us.
Someday there will be a cure and we we'll say to each other "remember when we ate toilet paper for regrowth?? good times..."
This is a journey, unfortunately in our time there isn't a cure, yet, so we have to do this. It's just a matter of time until something will work, it's good money for the companies and they're working really hard not like 20 years ago.

[Cob984]

Im angry at tracy man, she should gtfo , shes a dumbass who doesnt even have mpb,
I stand by these products because i have tried them, i wish i could handle the pills but my body wont tolerate them sadly, but this company is solid so i encourage you guys to try it,

I really like the topicals and if you guys can tolerate the pills, i guarantee good almost fin like results given my experience,

Report back guys, kudos for giving this a shot like I am, Lets all report back regularly with our updates

[LongWayHome]

BTW!!
I almost forgot to ask you:
What is the difference between the "ultra therapy cg2" and the "serum cg2" ?
In their website it says that "ultra" is a stronger one for "excessive hair loss"
and the serum is kinda modest, so what exactly do you use?
Just tell me everything you use from that company and how exactly,
I understand the serums have to be used on the scalp only when it's 50 celius at least and leave it for 10-15 minutes.

[Cob984]

the conditioner is the weakest, the conditioner really isnt a conditioner its a serum,

So in terms of strength its conditioner<serum<ultra,
I chose the serum because it says age 25> and im 25, so to be safe, plus its v strong in itself,
i only use a small amt and after applying hot water to the scalp, I leave it on for about 10 minutes, i also keep the products in the fridge since the activation is all about temperature differential.
So i put hot water then shampoo for 4-5 minutes, wash, then heat scalp, serum 10 minutes, Wash

I only use a little serum 2x week because any more and i start to get brain fog like symptoms, now its getting better though as my body is getting used to it

[LongWayHome]

So you're saying that the serum is cold when you use it on your hot scalp?
Can't it be dangerous? even though I understand there is chemical thing here so I guess if it wasn't like this it wouldn't be effective at all.

[Cob984]

why would it be dangerous? its not like my scalp is boiling lol,
the whole point of this is temperature differential, in fact i have noticed less headaches since putting the product in the fridge

[shredder]

for me, the temperature-dependent activation is a drawback to the topical products. I am quite sensitive to higher temperatures, so the need to put my head under what I (subjectively) consider to be too hot water is not that great.

cob, are you sure that a temperature difference causes the activation? because I thought that is was the absolute temperature (50 &#176;C) that causes the activation. did you ask the keratene guys?

[Cob984]

The water doesnt have to be flaming hot guys, yes iv asked the guys,
The keratene guys said doesnt need to be put in a fridge but i met a HT dr in my hometown who has just launched selling the product here in India, Dr Poswal, his clinic stores the shampoos under refrigeration claiming that its better for the scalp that way and i would have to agree, iv had a more pleasant experience since doing so

[shredder]

but couldn't your feeling better be the result of a smaller fraction of the substance being absorbed? just wondering...

[Cob984]

i have confirmed with keratene reps that the temperature of the product as long as it isnt above normal room temp wont affect absorption,

just have a warm scalp and ul be fine

oh and btw recently when i was travelling, i used the product room temperature and didnt feel any worse

[shredder]

thanks cob.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Im angry at tracy man, she should gtfo , shes a dumbass who doesnt even have mpb,
I stand by these products because i have tried them, i wish i could handle the pills but my body wont tolerate them sadly, but this company is solid so i encourage you guys to try it,

I really like the topicals and if you guys can tolerate the pills, i guarantee good almost fin like results given my experience,

Report back guys, kudos for giving this a shot like I am, Lets all report back regularly with our updates

If you are getting sides from this - people are better of trying fin, if they are looking for their first hairloss product.