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  • Cob984
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 526

    Lol im just waiting for my RU to arrive and the shrinkage has been reversible so far, i tried getting off the keratene for a few days and somehow my hair got much worse so im holding out till RU shows

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    • HARIRI
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 467

      Originally posted by Cob984
      Lol im just waiting for my RU to arrive and the shrinkage has been reversible so far, i tried getting off the keratene for a few days and somehow my hair got much worse so im holding out till RU shows
      COB984, Which RU will you use? Is it the mpbtreatments.com one? Which strength will it be 1% or 2% or 5%?

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        Originally posted by Cob984
        Lol im just waiting for my RU to arrive and the shrinkage has been reversible so far, i tried getting off the keratene for a few days and somehow my hair got much worse so im holding out till RU shows
        Cob if you're having problems with K.A.R then RU will likely cause you the same issues - given the fact that it works in the same way Finasteride does.

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        • Cob984
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 526

          ?? ru doesnt reduce dht? what are you talking about, also i will start slow, if sides are bad ill move to CB
          Also, Kar is causing me problems w.o results, i mean if my hair stopped thinning then maybe i would just accept sides and move on, but if my hair is worsening and im struggling with sides i really see no point in this.

          And hariri, i ordered from kane and will make my own 2% solution to begin with

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          • HARIRI
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 467

            cob984, I heard from an active caller to Bald Truth show last Tuesday that if you get sides from FIN, you will get sides from RU. He is an expert guy and have been doing his mixes long time ago. You can to this link and listen to the show NOW http://www.thebaldtruth.com/watch-live/ . However Im strong believer in CB. I think its somehow the real alternative to FIN :-)

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            • Cob984
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 526

              I dont agree, maybe i will get sides 50-100mg, but im sure i can find a body tolerance at a lower dose,
              there are plenty of people who moved over from fin to RU to avoid sides, esp on HLH and even staythick and clandestine here itself on BTT, albeit at lower doses than 50,

              Also, im keen to avoid the fatigue and the weight gain sides in particular, if i can avoid those on RU i dont really care about a lower libido, ill just take cialis or viagra or whatever

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              • ryan555
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 428

                Why don't you guys get blood tests before dumping treatments???? There is no way to declare that a treatment doesn't work unless a) you've been on it 6 or even 12 months without results, or b) you get your blood tested and there is no change in DHT levels.

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                • ryan555
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 428

                  Cob, I saw on another forum where you posted that you were in the trials for this product and were happy with the experience and that it did lower your DHT. What changed?

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                  • Jcm800
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2614

                    Anything new on this front?

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                    • hugo
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 11

                      I have received my DHT blood test results. Details and background are:

                      Used proscar daily since 2009 with good results. My hair loss stop after the initial shock loss. Only sides were loss of morning erection. However due to my age not really that important to me.
                      Stopped proscar and switched to Keratene Retard on 28 March 2013. Reason - prefer more natural based medicine. I am taking the prescribes dosage of two tablets in the morning and two tablets in the evening.
                      Stupidly I have not done a DHT test prior to the switch but my hair loss stopped 100% with proscar, so DHT range must have been reduced to low.
                      Done DHT blood test on 11 May 2013, nearly six weeks since switch date.
                      Results are 1.3 nmol/l (normal rage is 0.7 to 5.4). To compare against the Keratene results table I have converted the result to pg/ml. This came to 219.96 which is below the DHT threshold as per the Keratene results table.
                      What do I think - pretty good result and in line with the Keratene research. No sides and morning erection returned. However, still get a bit nervous when I see one or three hairs in the wash basin in the morning. This was probably true whilst using proscar but did not notice it as I trusted proscar 100 % and still do to prevent hair loss. But given the test result I will stay with Keratene.
                      Hopefully more and more members will have the same results as me and a whole body of encouraging results can be compiled so that everyone can use the product with the same confidence as proscar.

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                      • Cob984
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 526

                        damn, thats a low dht, and btw its 1 tab in the morning and 1 in the evening, ur megadosing on that stuff, if someone who has sides on proscar took kar in ur dosages they would have the exact same sides

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                        • HARIRI
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 467

                          Hugo, Please do not play with the dosage. Its one capsule in the morning and one capsule in the evening. Its very clear and written on the bottle and the covering bag. Please reduce your intake to the recommended dosage and then inform us your findings. Thank you.

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                          • Jcm800
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2614

                            Hmm, even tho he's mega dosing, it seems to be having the desired effect? Tempted to try this as a last resort - after that it's fin or give up for me.

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                            • GuyFromUK
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 73

                              Originally posted by hugo
                              I have received my DHT blood test results. Details and background are:

                              Used proscar daily since 2009 with good results. My hair loss stop after the initial shock loss. Only sides were loss of morning erection. However due to my age not really that important to me.
                              Stopped proscar and switched to Keratene Retard on 28 March 2013. Reason - prefer more natural based medicine. I am taking the prescribes dosage of two tablets in the morning and two tablets in the evening.
                              Stupidly I have not done a DHT test prior to the switch but my hair loss stopped 100% with proscar, so DHT range must have been reduced to low.
                              Done DHT blood test on 11 May 2013, nearly six weeks since switch date.
                              Results are 1.3 nmol/l (normal rage is 0.7 to 5.4). To compare against the Keratene results table I have converted the result to pg/ml. This came to 219.96 which is below the DHT threshold as per the Keratene results table.
                              What do I think - pretty good result and in line with the Keratene research. No sides and morning erection returned. However, still get a bit nervous when I see one or three hairs in the wash basin in the morning. This was probably true whilst using proscar but did not notice it as I trusted proscar 100 % and still do to prevent hair loss. But given the test result I will stay with Keratene.
                              Hopefully more and more members will have the same results as me and a whole body of encouraging results can be compiled so that everyone can use the product with the same confidence as proscar.


                              Hugo - this post is really interesting. I am in a similar position to you and I am considering dropping propecia and starting KAR. Please keep us updated with your progress on KAR and let us know if your hair deteriorates. Did you notice any other changes with your body when you came off proscar and started KAR? When I started on propecia my skin improved massively and my spots went. Do you think my skin will deteriorate again if I come off propecia and start KAR? Are you going to test your DHT levels again at any point in the future?

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                              • UK_
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2691

                                Originally posted by GuyFromUK
                                Hugo - this post is really interesting. I am in a similar position to you and I am considering dropping propecia and starting KAR. Please keep us updated with your progress on KAR and let us know if your hair deteriorates. Did you notice any other changes with your body when you came off proscar and started KAR? When I started on propecia my skin improved massively and my spots went. Do you think my skin will deteriorate again if I come off propecia and start KAR? Are you going to test your DHT levels again at any point in the future?
                                Sure you wanna risk all your gains on what appears to be beta-sisterol?

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