KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[yeahyeahyeah]

Yeah keep us updated, im getting desperate myself

And let me know too.

[Tracy C]

you are a flaming idiot...

Far from it. If you want to see what a flaming idiot looks like, go look in a mirror.

When you are done with that, try paying attentions to the details. The devil is in the details - and the details do matter.

If you ignore the fact that there is no un-biased input from anyone who does not have a vested interest in selling the product, you are a fool.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Far from it. If you want to see what a flaming idiot looks like, go look in a mirror.

When you are done with that, try paying attentions to the details. The devil is in the details - and the details do matter.

If you ignore the fact that there is no un-biased input from anyone who does not have a vested interest in selling the product, you are a fool.

Oh shut up both of you.

Tired of seeing Tracy getting into flame wars.

[Tracy C]

Tired of seeing Tracy getting into flame wars.

I don't start them. I only defend myself when someone else flames me. So, just don't flame me and I won't flame you back. It's that easy.

I want this thing you've found to be real you know. I want to see good quality un-biased evidence that it works. I deeply wish there were some available - but there isn't. At least not yet. Hopefully there will be some someday.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I don't start them. I only defend myself when someone else flames me. So, just don't flame me and I won't flame you back. It's that easy.

I want this thing you've found to be real you know. I want to see good quality un-biased evidence that it works. I deeply wish there were some available - but there isn't. At least not yet. Hopefully there will be some someday.

The only way people are going to find out is if they order the product and try it out.

Everything else is just mental masturbation.

[JJJJrS]

Interesting thread. Definitely intrigued to read people's experiences on this.

The trouble with proving these type of treatments is that it's very difficult to tell if something is really slowing down or halting your hairloss, since each person's hairloss progression is pretty unpredictable. Maybe a blood test would be worth looking into, like some people have recommended in this thread. But we'll probably get an idea if there's enough before-after pictures, anecdotal stories.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Interesting thread. Definitely intrigued to read people's experiences on this.

The trouble with proving these type of treatments is that it's very difficult to tell if something is really slowing down or halting your hairloss, since each person's hairloss progression is pretty unpredictable. Maybe a blood test would be worth looking into, like some people have recommended in this thread. But we'll probably get an idea if there's enough before-after pictures, anecdotal stories.

Thats why I am a bad example.

Because my HL is very slow anyway.

[Kirby_]

I don't start them. I only defend myself when someone else flames me. So, just don't flame me and I won't flame you back. It's that easy.

I want this thing you've found to be real you know. I want to see good quality un-biased evidence that it works. I deeply wish there were some available - but there isn't. At least not yet. Hopefully there will be some someday.

You're only getting flamed in this thread because you're telling people what they don't want to hear, namely this is another sham product with no proper scientific evidence behind it.

[b0urna]

Oh shut up both of you.

Tired of seeing Tracy getting into flame wars.

Tracy gets flamed because she's (rightfully) doubtful about an unproven product, that what we should assume for now is one of the hundreds of snake oils trying to take advantage of our desperation.
Come on people..wake up from your mental masturbation (loving the phrasing yeahyeahyeah), if this works as a 'fin without sides' we should start getting reports from all over the web within a few months, in the meantime I wouldn't get too excited

[Cob984]

no what wer saying is tracy is a moron because everything but fin is garbage,
its not, this thing is not side affect free but lower dht it does,
The topicals will convince you of this as well if you bothered to try them,

And if your body rejects fin there are plenty of other products nowhere near as good but not snake oils. this is reality,

[Conpecia]

Anyways back to the matter at hand... Do you guys know if this even ships to the US? That'd kinda deflat my plans if it doesn't...

[yeahyeahyeah]

Anyways back to the matter at hand... Do you guys know if this even ships to the US? That'd kinda deflat my plans if it doesn't...

if you order via prohair clinic they ship to the US

[Conpecia]

if you order via prohair clinic they ship to the US

Thanks man. Phew.

I'll order some this weekend along with capillogain. I have decided to abandon fin because it gives me gynecomastia and sexual sides that are not worth preserving my hair. I believe these two experimental treatments used simultaneously will do something positive, even if that means mere preservation and not regrowth. I have enough hair so that 6 months will not make or break me. I can always hop back on fin this summer.

My goal psychologically is to be disciplined with the treatments and not monitor myself too much until 6 months has passed. I spend way too much time worrying about hair loss and I also tend to abandon treatments early for fear of sides and ineffectiveness. I have a lot going for me other than my hair. It really isn't that big a deal.

[Conpecia]

Update:

Tried to order 180 pills of Keratene and was denied when I entered my credit card info, simply stating "Not Authorized"

I sent them an email, will report back with any info...

Also, this stuff ain't cheap. But cheaper than Propecia at least...

[Cob984]

The capsules were a bit too intense for me I think even at small quantities, i felt bit of a disconnect with my brethren down there if you know what I mean, guess I will stick with the topical route for now:

I am using the keratene shampoo + sercomplex, good product all around, for those wanting to try the capsules go for it, this is a solid company