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  • JulioGP
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 293

    I agree with AAsuited.

    It's tricky start taking Kératene / Finasteride / Dutasteride / Saw Palmetto or any other medication that causes hormonal change without monitoring the possible changes.

    I think you can not expect many results before six months, as well as Finasteride, of course I am referring to visible results.

    The only way you have to know if the Kératene doing any effect on your DHT even before visible results is with blood tests. Managing to keep your DHT at a level considered "ideal" for the recovery of follicles, so this result starts to become visible even will take a few months.

    I can not wait to get mine to begin testing too.

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    • UK_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2691

      Originally posted by JulioGP
      I agree with AAsuited.

      It's tricky start taking Kératene / Finasteride / Dutasteride / Saw Palmetto or any other medication that causes hormonal change without monitoring the possible changes.

      I think you can not expect many results before six months, as well as Finasteride, of course I am referring to visible results.

      The only way you have to know if the Kératene doing any effect on your DHT even before visible results is with blood tests. Managing to keep your DHT at a level considered "ideal" for the recovery of follicles, so this result starts to become visible even will take a few months.

      I can not wait to get mine to begin testing too.
      Even if you're currently taking Keratene, it would be ideal to stop treatment for 14 days, have a blood test, then resume then get tested again to see if it's working.

      I would do this, but in the UK they dont allow you to go for blood tests for such reasons, and if someone can point me in the direction of a private UK clinic that would test my DHT/TEST/ESTRADIOL levels then that would be greatly appreciated.

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      • AAsuited
        Junior Member
        • May 2013
        • 19

        Originally posted by UK_
        Even if you're currently taking Keratene, it would be ideal to stop treatment for 14 days, have a blood test, then resume then get tested again to see if it's working.

        I would do this, but in the UK they dont allow you to go for blood tests for such reasons, and if someone can point me in the direction of a private UK clinic that would test my DHT/TEST/ESTRADIOL levels then that would be greatly appreciated.
        I was on fina for very little time, but to be sure that I'm "clean" I will wait 2 more weeks to complete 1 month off, then get tested and just after that start Kératene, I think Julio is doing the same.

        It's very sad in an advanced country such as UK it's not so simple to get tested, here in BR (at least in the major pats of the country) if you have a really good insurance or the money to pay, you can find awesome laboratories easily...But UK probably have good private laboratories, I'm sure some user can help you, and certainly will worth the money :-D

        But anyway, even if it's not possible to run tests so frequently in some places, a "clean" test before the treatment and others with 1, 2 or even 3 months after the beginning is already a very safe checkup protocol...what is unthinkable is the shot in the dark with no tests, no protocol, and followed by shit talk/pseudo-analysis that a lot of people are doing...

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        • JulioGP
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 293

          Guys,

          My Kératene arrived. I´ll start tomorrow.



          I will updating here as needed and if it occurs something different. So I do the next exam now with the influence of Kératene, and will post the results.

          hugs

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          • HARIRI
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 467

            Originally posted by JulioGP
            Guys,

            My Kératene arrived. I´ll start tomorrow.



            I will updating here as needed and if it occurs something different. So I do the next exam now with the influence of Kératene, and will post the results.

            hugs
            wow, new look. They updated the design of the bottle and made it more attractive. So are you going to take one capsule a day or 2 capsules? My friendly advice is to take it before bedtime if once a day to avoid any fatigue issue.

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            • thechamp
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1763

              Fin

              I'm going to take the tinyest bit of fin u can see to the human eye once a week see if I still get the weight gain

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              • AAsuited
                Junior Member
                • May 2013
                • 19

                Originally posted by JulioGP
                Guys,

                My Kératene arrived. I´ll start tomorrow.



                I will updating here as needed and if it occurs something different. So I do the next exam now with the influence of Kératene, and will post the results.

                hugs
                Nice Julio, mine I think is arriving soon!!Ow, and check when you can, I did send you a pmsg in ************ (off topic, about our posting service in BR, int buying products infos,etc. would not polute this topic with this hehe...by the way, the only good thing in that forum are the private messages, this one is much better.. LOL)

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                • Jcm800
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2614

                  Originally posted by HARIRI
                  wow, new look. They updated the design of the bottle and made it more attractive. So are you going to take one capsule a day or 2 capsules? My friendly advice is to take it before bedtime if once a day to avoid any fatigue issue.
                  How long will one container last please? Did you order two together?

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                  • HARIRI
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 467

                    Originally posted by Jcm800
                    How long will one container last please? Did you order two together?
                    Each container contains 60 capsules which suppose to be a one month supply if taken twice a day but fortunately in my case it lasts for 2 months as I take it once a day.

                    Julio ordered 2 bottles so it depends upon his usage whether it will last for 2 or 4 months

                    In my case I ordered one order 180 capsules which made me save more money, Julio ordered 2 single orders of 60 capsules which costs more but I understand that he may not want to risk it.



                    Or

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                    • Jcm800
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2614

                      Originally posted by HARIRI
                      Each container contains 60 capsules which suppose to be a one month supply if taken twice a day but fortunately in my case it lasts for 2 months as I take it once a day.

                      Julio ordered 2 bottles so it depends upon his usage whether it will last for 2 or 4 months
                      Ok thanks a lot. Hmm think I might try this, if it doesn't work, last throw off the dice will be finasteride for me.

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                      • JulioGP
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 293

                        Guys,

                        Answering the questions:

                        HARIRI - I'll start as one capsule a day, according to the instructions accompanying the product. The manual says:

                        When the DHT level is known. (This is my case, my DHT is 989pg/ml)
                        1 - DHT level between 849 and 1673pg/ml, 1 capsule per day in the morning between 8 and 9.

                        I will start using the morning and see how I will be in terms of fatigue. According to the manual, fatigue is expected. "reduces the level of DHT androgen in the body, it may affect the performance of professional athletes. It is recommended to interrupt the administration of Kératene with at least 10 days before a competition."

                        If it gets too bad, start taking evening. Thanks for the tip.


                        JCM800 - The HARIRI answered the question. Exactly, just bought 2 bottles not to take risk with the supervision of the board of health at customs in Brazil. How I-ll start with only 1 capsule per day, is to last four months. In the meantime I'll do some tests with it and seeing how are the levels of hormones including DHT to decide whether it is worthwhile to increase to 2 capsules or not, it may not be necessary.

                        AAsuited - I add you! Thank you.

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                        • HARIRI
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 467

                          Originally posted by JulioGP
                          Guys,

                          Answering the questions:

                          HARIRI - I'll start as one capsule a day, according to the instructions accompanying the product. The manual says:

                          When the DHT level is known. (This is my case, my DHT is 989pg/ml)
                          1 - DHT level between 849 and 1673pg/ml, 1 capsule per day in the morning between 8 and 9.

                          I will start using the morning and see how I will be in terms of fatigue. According to the manual, fatigue is expected. "reduces the level of DHT androgen in the body, it may affect the performance of professional athletes. It is recommended to interrupt the administration of Kératene with at least 10 days before a competition."
                          For your info, I spoke to Mr. Marc Costin their manager and he told me it doesnt matter whether if taken in the morning or evening. They dont have any study about it, they just guessed that the man hormones are high because of the morning wood. However he told me that once in the evening is better to avoid any fatigue. The last thing you want is low work performance at your office.

                          Good luck and we appreciate the tests you will go through in order to clarify to us whether its really working or not. Obrigado Amigo

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                          • Jairus
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 191

                            Julio are you planning to re test your DHT levels around 2 weeks into using the pills? As opposed to waiting four months. In the published study, the DHT was reduced significantly after 2 weeks so you should know where you stand at that stage.

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                            • JulioGP
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 293

                              HARIRI - De nada meu amigo!

                              Jairus, I probably will do my first scan after starting Kératene half of June, because I will be traveling in a few days. Will be given about 20 days of treatment, so, a few extra days to prove Kératene functioning or not as it should about DHT and the others hormones.

                              HARIRI, Mr. Marc should even be right. I'll make this initial test in the morning to see what happens.

                              Another important point, I do physical exercises in the gym regularly for about 15 years. The only supplement that consumption is Whey Protein. I'm no athlete, but I'm not as amateur as well so if there is a high level of fatigue, sure I'll feel.

                              In this case I´ll report in the forum and will change the medication for the night time to see what happens.

                              hugs

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                              • JulioGP
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 293

                                HARIRI - De nada, meu amigo!

                                Jairus, I probably will do my first blood test after starting Kératene, half of June because I will be traveling in a few days. Will be given about 20 days of treatment, so, a few extra days to prove Kératene functioning or not as it should about DHT and the others hormones.

                                HARIRI, Mr. Marc should even be right. I'll make this initial test in the morning to see what happens.

                                Another important point, I do physical exercises in the gym regularly for about 15 years. The only supplement that consumption is Whey Protein. I'm no athlete, but I'm not as amateur as well so if there is a high level of fatigue, sure I'll feel.

                                In this case I´ll report in the forum and will change the medication for the night time to see what happens.

                                hugs

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