KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[ajays]

So are you saying finasteride gives instant results? Doctors advise to use fin for at least 6 months to 1 year to decide whether it works for an individual.

If it supposedly works through some interaction with DHT and multiple people get before/after tests and DHT is the same then it doesnt work.
Its also kind of expensive for maybe not even working and the time it takes to see any real result. That is the allure of snake oil for MPB the large amount of time it can just not work.

[burtandernie]

If it supposedly works through some interaction with DHT and multiple people get before/after tests and DHT is the same then it doesnt work.
Its also kind of expensive for maybe not even working and the time it takes to see any real result. That is the allure of snake oil for MPB the large amount of time it can just not work.

[ajays]

Julian,

Thanks for the positive comment on my "before" pic. But honestly, I was just getting freaked out with the state of my hairline and crown compared to what I used to have earlier. It was just crazy to see my hair starting to go bad within a period of 1 year. If I look at my hair, I was more of a NW1 rapidly turning into NW2 or worse. I feel I am getting back to NW1, but I will let ppl judge for themselves.

The points you mentioned below are the same I came up with before deciding to give this product a try. Reg the independent blood tests by other users i.e julio and ryan555, though I appreciate the time and effort they put in there are lots of open questions and doubts. First, Julio's blood test results may no sense whichever you look at it. It could be the ELISA method his lab uses or something else, I dont know but they just defy logic. This has been discussed in detail in this and other posts so I will not spend time on it again. Reg ryan555, he was pretty active in this forum for a brief period and now seems to have disappeared. I am really eager to know more updates from him.

Some are deeply convinced it's a snake oil, but for me the jury is still out.

My arguments:
Pro: - the company's own research looks good, they researched hormone values, which is where I think such a product should first look at
- For a smaller study they cooperated with the University of Ghent. This makes it almost impossible to produce false results.
- Backed by some doctors and big hairtransplant clinics as Prohair

con: - two of the members showed negative results with their blood tests *
- not clear what the ingredients are

* but I do think at least one of the results was highly unreliable, another showed positive results, but he hasn't posted since.


Judge yourself, maybe ajays photo is another pro argument, it seems his hair has thickened up somewhat, but his hairline actually looked pretty good to begin with.

[ajays]

Jcm800,

Fair point...and weird too, I do look back at my posts and I realise that I have just been a lurker on other threads on this forum. It is to be noted though that from past year I have been seeing aggressive thinning in my hairline and crown. I looked on the web and tv ads and the answer seemed to be Minoxidil, but that just backfired on me. I was looking for alternatives and I came across this forum among others. Read through pretty much all stuff on fin and other products. I did not feel the need to post anything in these threads cause I was convinced that I will never ever use Fin. Then earlier this year, I saw posts on Keratene on this and other forums, which got me interested. I did my research and decided to give it a try.

I can understand your mistrust, but I don't really care. I don't owe anything to you or others on this forum. I have been and will continue to post my experience so far i.e. with Keratene, Minox etc etc and people should be adult enough to decide for themselves whether to use one particular product or the other, just like I did with Fin and Minox. You will notice in all my posts, I have just been stating the facts that I personally observe. I have not been yelling at the top of my voice trying to sell this stuff or convince others to use it.

Also, I have not posted any pics since I started on Keratene even though quite a few folks have requested. Primary reason is that hair growth takes time as we all know. I wanted to use the product for at least 6 months before posting any pics. Personally I think it's just naive for people to expect improvements with any product within 3 months. That is just not possible.

Having said the above, I will continue to post my experiences, even though my posting abilities/frequency may not be too up to people's expectations.

ajays - far as i can see, all you've posted about since joining this forum is Keratene, as a hairloss sufferer dont you have any other questions to ask on other topic's, just find it a bit odd that's all..

[HARIRI]

After all Keratene Alphactive Retard is a lifesaver to me for now. I could NOT trade my Sexual life with Hair. Balding will hurt me only but sexual issues will hurt me and my wife. I really wish one day that hair loss will be treated without screwing around with our libido and sexual life. This is the worst side effect in my opinion and I know young guys in the 20's starting taking Cialis or Viagra since starting Finasteride. This is so depressing! Why hair is connected to penis

Check this out :-

[HARIRI]

hey guys - I dont have time to read the whole thread:

Is this Keratene stuff working or just another snake oil product??

In my opinion, this product works by reducing the amount of fallen a hair per day. I wont deny that at all. Its not as effective as Finasteride of course as it could halt hair loss and get you some regrowth at the crown area but at least its more effective as an oral alternative than Saw Palmetto.

The greatest thing about it that it does NOT give me any sexual sides. My sex life is really great and my morning wood & libido is fully restored since switching from Saw Palmetto to Keratene Alphactive Retard.

In my case, Finasteride killed my libido and caused me some ED, Saw Palmetto reduced my libido little bit and affected my morning wood somehow but didnt have any ED.

However keep in my mind that if you will take it in the morning, you may feel dizzy. That is why I'm taking it once a day before bedtime. Dizziness is the only side effect I encountered from this product. This is my honest judgement.

[Julian P]

hey guys - I dont have time to read the whole thread:

Is this Keratene stuff working or just another snake oil product??

Some are deeply convinced it's a snake oil, but for me the jury is still out.

My arguments:
Pro: - the company's own research looks good, they researched hormone values, which is where I think such a product should first look at
- For a smaller study they cooperated with the University of Ghent. This makes it almost impossible to produce false results.
- Backed by some doctors and big hairtransplant clinics as Prohair

con: - two of the members showed negative results with their blood tests *
- not clear what the ingredients are

* but I do think at least one of the results was highly unreliable, another showed positive results, but he hasn't posted since.


Judge yourself, maybe ajays photo is another pro argument, it seems his hair has thickened up somewhat, but his hairline actually looked pretty good to begin with.

[Duke]

hey guys - I dont have time to read the whole thread:

Is this Keratene stuff working or just another snake oil product??

[NeedHairASAP]

I just realized that I posted the #1000 post in this thread lol

This thread had 122,677 views, I wish all members in this forum who experienced the KAR will post their KAR experience in this thread.

not unique views

[Jcm800]

ajays - far as i can see, all you've posted about since joining this forum is Keratene, as a hairloss sufferer dont you have any other questions to ask on other topic's, just find it a bit odd that's all..

[ajays]

Ok - Before and after pic attached. Pardon the picture quality, I have picked these from family pics. Completed 6 months on Keratene i.e. the capsules 2x/day and shampoo/serum 3 times a week + multivitamin (1x/day). I gave up on minox 6 months back, so wanted to try another topical & systemic combination.

Personally, I do feel there are improvements in my hair in terms of thickness, quality and fallen hair in the shower/comb + i am just glad that I do not have to use minox everyday/suffer from it's sides.

[Julian P]

Yes, the results showed that DHT levels came back higher.

So much for non-approved treatments eh?

And he had the same high DHT-levels with 1mg of finasteride every other day. Taking 0,5mg every day his DHT levels were still a bit higher than his base-level. Not very trustworthy in my eyes.

[jo5555]

I started taking KaR a bit after this thread started. I've been on it for more or less 6 month taking 1 pill a day...

my hairloss didn't regress, nor even stop... in other words in kept loosing more hair :|

During the first month or so, I was indeed feeling more tired than usual and the scalp itching was lower, but after some time, it came back again to normal.

[UK_]

I am taking Keratene 2 months now twice a day.
A number of weeks I felt very tired. Thought it was the change of the weather. Now feel normal again. Perhaps body gets used to it.
If it really does something no clue.

Is there still no-one with results of a blood test ?

Yes, the results showed that DHT levels came back higher.

So much for non-approved treatments eh?

[kundun]

I am taking Keratene 2 months now twice a day.
A number of weeks I felt very tired. Thought it was the change of the weather. Now feel normal again. Perhaps body gets used to it.
If it really does something no clue.

Is there still no-one with results of a blood test ?