KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[Jairus]

Hi garmin333
I was one of the guys that took part in their trials. I signed up from their site. My trial went O.K., no complaints whatsoever for 11 months now (going strong –knock on wood 3x) also no sides. In the beginning they did ask if I don’t do athletic activities and sport stuff and that it may be possible to get tired after a while but I had no such problems. They took blood several times up to a point that I got fed up getting drained dry by those vampires. They took my blood 11 times!! Eventually I got the results by post and dht went from 2140 (before) to 620 (after two weeks). From the repeat tests it looked like after a few months it was at pretty much the same level of around 600. My next blood test is due in a month or so. I swear it's the last needle I take up my veins. Unfortunately I signed to papers with them and I have to go thru with this but I don't recommend so many blood test to anyone. They kept telling me it's essential to measure blood sh*t and crap to see how stuff evolves and what is stabilized and more medical scifi crap about hormones enzyme chemicals and genes that none understands but I had enough of needles! For the moment I feel great and I have zero loss of sex drive, hair loss just stopped, it's O.K. (I would like to say amazing compared to what I was losing before). No bad feelings for those guys they were very professional and compassionate but I'll certainly stay away from any other trials that involve needles. Keep you posted soon about the next results.
Greetz D

This geezer apparently signed up to the trials - this extract is on page 2 of this thread I think.

[Jcm800]

Uk- have you decided to try Fin again afterall? Personally I'm hanging out for people's blood results re Keratene, I'm sure i read somewhere that a guy did have his bloods done, and the difference was negligible at best. May have been further back on this thread actually.

[UK_]

I have been to my GP yesterday and been told GPs in uk are not allowed to prescribe DHT tests but they can prescribe a T test . From what I experienced ,I dont even think she knew what DHT meant

I was sort of expecting this anyway ,so I asked for local labs she might know off so I can get the tests done privately.
Already emailed one of the hospitals and awaiting a reply .

Will update with my DHT test results soon hopefully

Please keep the updates coming people , we can even conduct our very own research on Keratene.

She didnt know what DHT meant? Wow, id seriously consider finding another doctor, god knows what else she doesnt know.

[vinnytr]

I have been to my GP yesterday and been told GPs in uk are not allowed to prescribe DHT tests but they can prescribe a T test . From what I experienced ,I dont even think she knew what DHT meant

I was sort of expecting this anyway ,so I asked for local labs she might know off so I can get the tests done privately.
Already emailed one of the hospitals and awaiting a reply .

Will update with my DHT test results soon hopefully

Please keep the updates coming people , we can even conduct our very own research on Keratene.

[JulioGP]

It is true.

Is the product manual that it should not be consumed with another 5AR inhibitor like finasteride or dutasteride. Even though these are being applied topically, there may be systemic absorption. In the instruction manual that accompanies the product there is no mention about the topical use of saw palmetto. I'm really hoping that this product is the most promising alternative for anyone who had side effects with Finasteride (like my case).

I abandoned Finasteride for more than one year due to various side effects. If the only side effect with the Kératene will be fatigue, will be easy. Just buy a few cans of RedBull. This product should be a revolutionary landmark in the fight against baldness.

I look forward to completing my blood test in the second part of June and see what I will find.

[AAsuited]

This topic is becoming much more focused and people are getting the point, and the importance of some protocols.Like I said before, this is not a complimentary treatment, is a completely new oral DHT reducer (5ard catalyst inhibitor) so, if our personal tests match their studies...bingo! maybe a new era of oral DHT reducers with much less sides has begun.Till them, tests, follow protocols and patience are essential.And, the most people running the correct previous and post blood tests, more we can have a big database and clinical observation to discuss and maximize our treatments!

Yep UK_ , I agree, the point is reduce the DHT levels, visible results will take as much as any other 5ard inhbitor like finasteride.The main point, besides the DHT reduction, and that's what we are all hopping their studies are correct, is the little to no alteration in the strogen/prolactine/testosterone/etc...

I will run my complete "clean" tests in 10 days, and after that start my treatment and update here my observations and posterior blood tests just as Julio. till them will be following the discussion.

One very important issue!!!!
Some users asked about complimentary treatments(most topical).I think most of you already know you can't, no matter what, mix the Kératene capsules with regular oral 5ard inhibitor like Fina/Duta. Thinking about this and studying, I came to the conclusion that, if any of you are taking Kératene and using some topical treatment with some product that contain finasteride (if some don't know, this kind of topical with tina exists and, for the ones that want finasteride in their blood, it's pretty effective), studies are showing that finasteride, when well absorbed(like in a lipossome formula) will act even in very small doses, so, pay attention and don't ever consider topical treatments with Fina/duta when Taking Kératene..

Thinking about this issue I started to study about other products that contain DHT inhibitors in their formula, since I use minoxidil as my topical choine and I like to use brands that have also DHT inhibitors and advanced absorption formulas like Spectral DNC-L(nanossomes) or Lipogaine (lipossomes) and both use DHT inhibitors like saw palmetto, azelaic acid, and others.My main question was that if this products acts just locally in the scalp or their are absorbed in a level that they become bioavaiable and active in the blood. Since there are no studies about that I emailed DS laboratories(Spectral producer) and Lipogaine and both of them said their product acts just locally and the blood biodisponibility is minimal.Considering their answers, and that saw palmetto is not like fina that with just very few mg in the blood acts (you need a lot of oral doses of saw palmetto to work, not just 1mg), I think their are correct in their affirmations, so, if someone else also likes to use minoxidil with DHT inhibitors, apparently will not interfere in the efficacy of the oral Kératene treatment.
I also had briefly discussed this subject in the Kératene website "chat" and they also said this minoxidil topicals with saw palmetto are safe to use with Kératene.
As I said before, and like to reinforce, just don't even consider topicals with tina/duta taking Kératene!!!
And as always, if someone have extra informations on this subject, or want to send an extra e-mail directly to Kératene technical team, we are all ears, since we are using a product that can't be mixed with other 5ard inhibitors in blood level, the safety of ours complimentary topical treatments are very important!
regards.

[AAsuited]

This topic is becoming much more focused and people are getting the point, and the importance of some protocols.Like I said before, this is not a complimentary treatment, is a completely new oral DHT reducer (5ard catalyst inhibitor) so, if our personal tests match their studies...bingo! maybe a new era of oral DHT reducers with much less sides has begun.Till them, tests, follow protocols and patience are essential.And, the most people running the correct previous and post blood tests, more we can have a big database and clinical observation to discuss and maximize our treatments!

Yep UK_ , I agree, the point is reduce the DHT levels, visible results will take as much as any other 5ard inhbitor like finasteride.The main point, besides the DHT reduction, and that's what we are all hopping their studies are correct, is the little to no alteration in the strogen/prolactine/testosterone/etc...

I will run my complete "clean" tests in 10 days, and after that start my treatment and update here my observations and posterior blood tests just as Julio. till them will be following the discussion.

One very important issue!!!!
Some users asked about complimentary treatments(most topical).I think most of you already know you can't, no matter what, mix the Kératene capsules with regular oral 5ard inhibitor like Fina/Duta. Thinking about this and studying, I came to the conclusion that, if any of you are taking Kératene and using some topical treatment with some product that contain finasteride (if some don't know, this kind of topical with tina exists and, for the ones that want finasteride in their blood, it's pretty effective), studies are showing that finasteride, when well absorbed(like in a lipossome formula) will act even in very small doses, so, pay attention and don't ever consider topical treatments with Fina/duta when Taking Kératene.

[Jcm800]

Before and after pictures are pointless - better to see if the compound is capable of lowering DHT, far more simple - duntchathink?

+1

I'm waiting patiently for you guy's that are willing to spend on tests, take one for the team, i did with trx2, your turn now, i'm keenly awaiting your report's, hope this isn't another let down scam.

[JulioGP]

Also thinking of trying this product.

Can't find any before/after pictures on their website.

What would be the best topical growth stimulant to add that is not minox?

I have some diffusing on top and mini hairs on the crown.

My friend, difficult a topic that does not contain Minox. A good alternative for you to join the Kératene with some topical solution in my opinion would be the Spectral DNC-S does not contain Minox but seems to be a great product because it combines in its formula several key ingredients.

Good luck and if you're really starting Kératene, be sure to share your experience here! If possible, do DHT and testosterone tests at least.

[ryan555]

For your info, I spoke to Mr. Marc Costin their manager and he told me it doesnt matter whether if taken in the morning or evening. They dont have any study about it, they just guessed that the man hormones are high because of the morning wood.

That's not very reassuring. It is common knowledge that male hormones are generally much higher in the morning. I hope their scientists are not "guessing" on such obvious facts.

[UK_]

Also thinking of trying this product.

Can't find any before/after pictures on their website.

What would be the best topical growth stimulant to add that is not minox?

I have some diffusing on top and mini hairs on the crown.

Before and after pictures are pointless - better to see if the compound is capable of lowering DHT, far more simple - duntchathink?

[Jairus]

Muchas gracias por la informacion Julio y no te preocupes, veinte dias = suficiente.

My Spanish is ropey as hell, but since u speak portuguese I hope u understand.

Will be keeping an eye on your updates in anticipation...good luck

[Dees Dab]

Also thinking of trying this product.

Can't find any before/after pictures on their website.

What would be the best topical growth stimulant to add that is not minox?

I have some diffusing on top and mini hairs on the crown.

[JulioGP]

HARIRI - De nada, meu amigo!

Jairus, I probably will do my first blood test after starting Kératene, half of June because I will be traveling in a few days. Will be given about 20 days of treatment, so, a few extra days to prove Kératene functioning or not as it should about DHT and the others hormones.

HARIRI, Mr. Marc should even be right. I'll make this initial test in the morning to see what happens.

Another important point, I do physical exercises in the gym regularly for about 15 years. The only supplement that consumption is Whey Protein. I'm no athlete, but I'm not as amateur as well so if there is a high level of fatigue, sure I'll feel.

In this case I´ll report in the forum and will change the medication for the night time to see what happens.

hugs

[JulioGP]

HARIRI - De nada meu amigo!

Jairus, I probably will do my first scan after starting Kératene half of June, because I will be traveling in a few days. Will be given about 20 days of treatment, so, a few extra days to prove Kératene functioning or not as it should about DHT and the others hormones.

HARIRI, Mr. Marc should even be right. I'll make this initial test in the morning to see what happens.

Another important point, I do physical exercises in the gym regularly for about 15 years. The only supplement that consumption is Whey Protein. I'm no athlete, but I'm not as amateur as well so if there is a high level of fatigue, sure I'll feel.

In this case I´ll report in the forum and will change the medication for the night time to see what happens.

hugs