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  • clandestine
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2002

    #16
    Could be great. Pretty big claim with the whole no side effects thing.

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    • yeahyeahyeah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1776

      #17
      Originally posted by clandestine
      Could be great. Pretty big claim with the whole no side effects thing.
      http://www.****************/interact...-with-no-sides

      ************

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      • yeahyeahyeah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1776

        #18
        Hairsite:

        http://www.*************/hair-loss/b...ategory-5.html

        s I follow a post made by Dr. Arvind about a new DHT lowering product (Keratene Retard) I have contacted some other Drs. to find out more.
        I contacted those that attended the FUE Europe Meeting where Keratene Retard was introduced.

        Here are the results so far-
        Dr. Arvind : good product, uses it in his practice.
        Dr. Lupanzula : are familiar with the product, just started to offer.
        Dr. Peter Hajduk (ex Gho Praag) : starting to offer to their patients as of november 2012. Also noted 'so far their clinical studies look very good'.
        Dr. Heitmann : convinced it will work, also offers it.
        Prohairclinic : started offering to our patient, solid clinical study and presentation. They are also conducting their own 'clinical' test at present.

        None of them have patient results, but it does seem that they do believe in this product.
        What the **** - it seems like all these HT surgeons have adopted it, but no one here has heard of it. Until now.

        Review from hairsite:

        Hi garmin333
        I was one of the guys that took part in their trials. I signed up from their site. My trial went O.K., no complaints whatsoever for 11 months now (going strong –knock on wood 3x) also no sides. In the beginning they did ask if I don’t do athletic activities and sport stuff and that it may be possible to get tired after a while but I had no such problems. They took blood several times up to a point that I got fed up getting drained dry by those vampires. They took my blood 11 times!! Eventually I got the results by post and dht went from 2140 (before) to 620 (after two weeks). From the repeat tests it looked like after a few months it was at pretty much the same level of around 600. My next blood test is due in a month or so. I swear it's the last needle I take up my veins. Unfortunately I signed to papers with them and I have to go thru with this but I don't recommend so many blood test to anyone. They kept telling me it's essential to measure blood sh*t and crap to see how stuff evolves and what is stabilized and more medical scifi crap about hormones enzyme chemicals and genes that none understands but I had enough of needles! For the moment I feel great and I have zero loss of sex drive, hair loss just stopped, it's O.K. (I would like to say amazing compared to what I was losing before). No bad feelings for those guys they were very professional and compassionate but I'll certainly stay away from any other trials that involve needles. Keep you posted soon about the next results.
        Greetz D

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          #19
          More on hairsite, Dr Arvind seems to be a big fan:

          http://www.*************/hair-loss/f...id-110587.html

          Dear Balki and ven,

          No, I am not paid to post for keratene or propecia or minoxidil or any other hairloss medications.
          I spent years studying the effects of various hairloss medications out of curiosity as well as on patients' requests. Only when I found something working for my patients, I decided to share my experiences with others as I have done over the years.

          As for "conflict of interest", the only conflict of interest for a hair transplant doctor would be any medication slowing down/stopping hairloss and thus doing away with the need for hair transplants.

          Lets not get into conspiracy theories.
          Regards,
          Dr. A




          Dr. Arvind is located in NEW DELHI, INDIA and he is available to meet: YES
          email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.
          ---
          Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
          A-9,First Floor,
          C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
          New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
          e-mail: fusehair1@gmail.com
          Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
          Hours-10a.m.to 5p.m
          Scalp & Body hair transplants
          facebook - arvind poswal
          Results- www.fusehair.com/image

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          • Conpecia
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 904

            #20
            two excellent finds yeahyeahyeah, nice work. the fact that independent doctors are endorsing it definitely goes a long way in making this seem more legitimate. if this stops my hairloss right where it is i will only need a small fue and then I'll never think about it again. still far too early for such wishful thinking but we're on the right track...

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              #21
              It was discussed here already, but the thread didn't garner much attention. It was called 'New Fin? - Without sides" In the Hair Loss Treatment section of the forum.

              Regardless, thanks for posting a new thread. I feel this deserves more attention.

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              • HARIRI
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 467

                #22
                Clandestine you are right, it deserves more attention especially for people like me who suffers sides from Fin.

                Guys, I think I will volunteer for this treatment. I'm going for 12 days vacation to Asia and will be back on Feb 7. By then I will order it from (www.prohairclinic.be) and will try it instead of my HairOmega DHT Herbal supplement (Saw Palemtto ++). In my case it really worth it as I really suffer from sexual sides from Fin. I really pray that it will work and slow my progression which is not that fast especially im using Rogaine 5% plus HairOmega DHT. Yeah Yeah Yeah, thanks from bringing this product to my attention.

                Fingers crossed.

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                • clandestine
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2002

                  #23
                  Exciting, keep us updated.

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                  • Cob984
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 526

                    #24
                    guys, this is surely not a side affect free fin, it is a fin sub no doubt,
                    i tried a couple capsules and i got the same cognitive sides i got on fin but more tolerable, bear in mind my body is very androgen sensitive, even saw palm gives me sides,

                    I use the shampoo good product, btw, if u tolerate this thats fantastic because it surely does its dht reducing job

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3083

                      #25
                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      I agree.

                      We need people to test this out.
                      Thus far every single bit of information on this has come from someone who has a vested interest in selling this product. Legitimate studies need to be performed and the results analyzed by a third party that is free of any conflict of interest. This has not happened and I do not see any evidence that it is going to happen.

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                      • clandestine
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2002

                        #26


                        Not this time, Tracy. You won't this time.

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                        • Cob984
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 526

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tracy C
                          Thus far every single bit of information on this has come from someone who has a vested interest in selling this product. Legitimate studies need to be performed and the results analyzed by a third party that is free of any conflict of interest. This has not happened and I do not see any evidence that it is going to happen.
                          why the **** are you on this website you dumb $%$%

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                          • neversaynever
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 640

                            #28
                            Hahahahhahahahhahahhahahha cob. That was funny.

                            I did start a thread about this but noone seemed interested! Im not convinced by it all (side free drug hmmm).

                            I also dont understand how its mode of action is different to fin?

                            Anyways, someones gotta check their DHT levels, and use this for a month and check levels again. Its the only way to know. I dont think people like Dr Arvind (who is quite ethical) would use this if he didnt think it works.

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                            • yeahyeahyeah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1776

                              #29
                              Originally posted by neversaynever
                              Hahahahhahahahhahahhahahha cob. That was funny.

                              I did start a thread about this but noone seemed interested! Im not convinced by it all (side free drug hmmm).

                              I also dont understand how its mode of action is different to fin?

                              Anyways, someones gotta check their DHT levels, and use this for a month and check levels again. Its the only way to know. I dont think people like Dr Arvind (who is quite ethical) would use this if he didnt think it works.
                              Dont think it is side effect free. Just less likely to get them as it is a depressor.

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                              • neversaynever
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 640

                                #30
                                Why are people saying 25% reduction?

                                1910 > 410....much more than 25%

                                I think their claim is that it doesnt effect T levels too much, which fin maybe does?

                                Check the stats in their study, its like a 70-80% reduction in DHT levels.

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