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  • ajays
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 90

    Just curious, why would Finasteride be taken if the DHT is already at low levels?

    Thanks.

    Originally posted by clandestine
    No. Finasteride could work for you. Minox isn't supposed to slow hair loss progression, it's a growth stimulant.

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    • HARIRI
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 467

      I agree with Everest13, stay away from this drug. If DHT isnt your problem then why risk yourself with chemical stuff that can affect your libido one day. Just increase your keratene dose to two capsules as recommended to maintain what you have, continue using minoxidil once a day to stimulate the hair growth and keep praying for future medications to come in 2015.

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      • Jasari
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 251

        Originally posted by HARIRI
        I agree with Everest13, stay away from this drug. If DHT isnt your problem then why risk yourself with chemical stuff that can affect your libido one day. Just increase your keratene dose to two capsules as recommended to maintain what you have, continue using minoxidil once a day to stimulate the hair growth and keep praying for future medications to come in 2015.
        Whats your experience with sides from Minox? I'd love to have an over the counter treatment and I wouldn't take any internal dht inhibitor.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Originally posted by Jasari
          Whats your experience with sides from Minox? I'd love to have an over the counter treatment and I wouldn't take any internal dht inhibitor.
          Try taking RU or CB.

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          • unwheel
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 5

            Could someone tell me what the delivery packaging is like? I know it's stupid but I don't want anyone else seeing 'KÉRATENE® ALPHACTIVE RETARD' or 'HARILOSS' in a massive font on the box and asking me about it.

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            • shredder
              Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 46

              hi unwheel, had the same concers but don't worry, the brand name is not displayed anywhere on the box.

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              • Stublue
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 5

                Got the capsules and shampoo last week so have been on them for 3 days. Obviously no impact as of yet but will make sure to update the forum. I'm also applying minox liquid (have been for the last year or so).

                As people have already said, the packaging looks very professional but the proof is in the results!!

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                • ajays
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 90

                  I dont think it's advisable to use the shampoo and minox, even if you plan to use them one or more days apart. There is always the risk of chemical shock with 2 topicals trying to do the same thing.If minox is working for you, then I would say just take the capsules along with it. I have been taking the capsules for couple of days now. Too early to say but so far no side effects.

                  On the topic of minox, I have finally established that I am allergic to minoxidil (what luck !). I have tried some options - minox with PG, minox without PG (foam), etc. But I end up getting itchy and rashes on my arms, under arms, chest and neck. Also, started getting wrinkles, puffy eyes (fluid retention) and dry lips. Looked like I aged five years or more.

                  - Has anyone on this forum experienced same issue?
                  - I used the dermaroller alongwith minox. Do you think because of that more amount of minox entered the bloodstream?
                  - Any recommendations on topical alternatives for minox? i.e nanoxidil, laser comb etc. I know the Keratene shampoo is an alternative but I guess it is primarily for maintenance rather than new growth.

                  Thanks!



                  Originally posted by Stublue
                  Got the capsules and shampoo last week so have been on them for 3 days. Obviously no impact as of yet but will make sure to update the forum. I'm also applying minox liquid (have been for the last year or so).

                  As people have already said, the packaging looks very professional but the proof is in the results!!

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                  • Cob984
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 526

                    laser comb is rubbish, i got the same sides + palpitations on minox,

                    Maybe capillogain, i might try that for my hairline soon

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                    • Conpecia
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 904

                      Minox did the same for me. I'm gonna try capillogain. No minox in it but something similar, however even that ingredient is at a smaller dose.

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                      • HARIRI
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 467

                        I strongly agree with ajays, if you use Minoxidil then only take Keratene capsules. Do not combine two topicals that has same purpose as its not advisable.

                        Guys if you suffer from basic sides then you can reduce the minoxidil from twice a day to once a day before bedtime and see how things if work.

                        However if Minoxdil isn't good for you at all then I would strongly advice to go for DNC NANOXIDIL. It was formulated for users that suffer sides from their Minoxidil product. I think it is better than Capillogain. You can read about Nanoxidil in this link:-

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                        • ajays
                          Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 90

                          Hariri,

                          Thanks. I have been using minox only once every night. Initially for a month, I was fine, then I read somewhere that using derma roller would help to increase minoxidil absorption. After some weeks, I started getting these issues. Now I am confused whether it is minoxidil by itself or because of the increased absorption due to dermaroller. I am going to experiment with small amount of minoxidil foam without using the dermaroller. If it still doesnt work I will check out capillogain or spectral DNC-N (from the reviews on nanoxidil it seems there are indeed no side effects but havent heard many positive reviews on hair regrowth or manintenance, lets see...in any case, need to have some topical applied, only Keratene capsules or propecia is not going to help).

                          All in all, I have realized how toxic these chemicals can be, especially I think the PG is like poison. My rashes were the worst while using minox with PG. I would recommend everyone on this forum to re-evaluate whether you really need to use minox with PG and maybe switch to foam? Things may be working for you now, but this toxic stuff is bound to affect in the long run. Lately I have been hearing about Lipogaine being the best minoxidil and many users recommend it, but really, do we want to use stuff from a "company" which has no registered presence on the internet or unregulated? God knows what they are putting in there to get short term benefits!!! Sorry for the rant, had to get it out....



                          Originally posted by HARIRI
                          I strongly agree with ajays, if you use Minoxidil then only take Keratene capsules. Do not combine two topicals that has same purpose as its not advisable.

                          Guys if you suffer from basic sides then you can reduce the minoxidil from twice a day to once a day before bedtime and see how things if work.

                          However if Minoxdil isn't good for you at all then I would strongly advice to go for DNC NANOXIDIL. It was formulated for users that suffer sides from their Minoxidil product. I think it is better than Capillogain. You can read about Nanoxidil in this link:-

                          http://www.dslaboratories.ro/interna...-vs-minoxidil/

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                          • Conpecia
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 904

                            Thanks HARIRI, I'll do some investigating on Nanoxidil, as my one worry with Capillogain is that there doesn't seem to be a consistent product; people are reporting substantial variation among each batch, and there is a lot of miscommunication between their employees. I'd hate to get started on it only to find out they're going out of business. Still, there have been several positive reports on its effectiveness, and if Nanoxidil isn't providing any regrowth to forum members it may not be a compelling substitute. I'll check it out either way.

                            I also have a question for anyone who's been on Keratene for a few weeks:

                            Have any of you noticed a decrease in shedding? I know it's very early in the game, but when I took propecia it completely stopped my hairloss in about three weeks I believe. This is the main indicator of efficacy in my opinion; if in a couple months everyone is still losing the same amount of hair, it will be difficult for me to believe Keratene works.

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                            • Cob984
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 526

                              Dunno about hair for sure yet but its bludgeoning me with sides especially weight gain, putting on lots of abdomen fat and also chest fat, freaking out about a possible gyno bout

                              Considering ordering Forma stanzol to counter

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                              • Conpecia
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 904

                                Originally posted by Cob984
                                Dunno about hair for sure yet but its bludgeoning me with sides especially weight gain, putting on lots of abdomen fat and also chest fat, freaking out about a possible gyno bout

                                Considering ordering Forma stanzol to counter
                                Jesus don't tell me this stuff can cause gyno, that's the whole reason I got off Fin to begin with. I swear I'm cursed with this hairloss treatment stuff, just want to take something to maintain without risking gyno, no clue why I keep getting it...

                                Are there any lumps under your nips or any soreness there? Could just be fat, if it's gyno you will feel a toothache kind of pain under your nips accompanied by puffiness, tenderness and generally a lump.

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