Histogen at the ISHRS conference

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  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1776

    #16
    Originally posted by neversaynever
    2 years is just an assumption, because so far histogen can only look at the patients from earlier trials to evaluate if hair is still growing, which is about 2 years. High chance that it will last longer
    As usual people are speculating like SHIT.

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    • TravisB
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 188

      #17
      The most important thing is - WHEN will it hit the market? Also, would Fin and Minox become redundant?

      And Kiwi, how do we know your colleague isn't bullshitting?

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      • Dazza
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 264

        #18
        Originally posted by TravisB
        And Kiwi, how do we know your colleague isn't bullshitting?
        Indeed. How did your colleague manage to get information no one else has been able to get? Even histogen hasn't reported this.

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        • Kiwi
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1087

          #19
          Originally posted by TravisB
          The most important thing is - WHEN will it hit the market? Also, would Fin and Minox become redundant?

          And Kiwi, how do we know your colleague isn't bullshitting?
          My colleague (more like a doctor patient relationship actually) was at the ISHRS conference. Apparently its just what was said at the conference. I don't think there would be any reason for him to be dishonest.

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          • Kiwi
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1087

            #20
            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
            As usual people are speculating like SHIT.
            I don't think its bad speculation. Anything past the 2 year mark is speculation. All the crazy shit people were saying about Replicell was bad speculation - sadly the people who complain most about Histogen got bitter and burnt of Replicell so I tend to take what they say as a grain of salt.

            If Histogen effect works for 2 years thats great. I don't care about what happens after 2 years yet - because that would be speculation.

            If we're lucky during that 2 years something better will come to market. Who knows. If I have to fly to Japan and spend 6 weeks there in 2015 every two years... its a small price to pay for my confidance and peace of mind.

            To be honest I'm at a point where if I didnt have a FUT scar I'd probably just shave my head. I'm too damn busy for the head crap and just want to get on with my life...

            If Histogen gives me some of that then thank god!

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            • UK_
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2691

              #21
              Great thread Kiwi - its been a while since I've come across a decent thread worthy of reading - the site really has deteriorated IMHO from how it used to be.

              Lets hope Histogen can achieve pan-Asian approval because im all set to fly over & have my first treatment - £1200 is nothing for a treatment like this - being as though Harley clinics charge up to £800 for a shitty Acell/PRP treatment that has zero clinical backing.

              Just a quick question though... who is the "colleague"?

              Was this received from Gail in the form of an email response?

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              • neversaynever
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 640

                #22
                Even if its just 2 years, its fine by me. Especially if we can shelve minox and fin and anything else.

                hope to see a aderans style presentation from histogen soon, they havent given us that yet (not that they owe it to us).

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                • Kiwi
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1087

                  #23
                  Originally posted by UK_
                  Great thread Kiwi - its been a while since I've come across a decent thread worthy of reading - the site really has deteriorated IMHO from how it used to be.

                  Lets hope Histogen can achieve pan-Asian approval because im all set to fly over & have my first treatment - £1200 is nothing for a treatment like this - being as though Harley clinics charge up to £800 for a shitty Acell/PRP treatment that has zero clinical backing.

                  Just a quick question though... who is the "colleague"?

                  Was this received from Gail in the form of an email response?
                  Thanks man. Its a pleasure to help and do something that might make people feel hope.

                  I don't want to say but when I read that I felt warm and positive for the first time in ages.

                  If I was a "decent" moderator / could moderate this thread I would delete anything that was anti hope.

                  Actually can I moderate this thread Mr Moderator?

                  Hmmm on that I don't see how moderating swear words is more important then moderating the anti hope messages people readily vomit into these threads :P

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                  • Gjm127
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 170

                    #24
                    As a person that worries on and off about hair loss... this is AMAZING news.
                    Can't wait to see Histogen make its way on the market!!!

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                    • neversaynever
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 640

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Kiwi
                      Thanks man. Its a pleasure to help and do something that might make people feel hope.

                      I don't want to say but when I read that I felt warm and positive for the first time in ages.

                      If I was a "decent" moderator / could moderate this thread I would delete anything that was anti hope.

                      Actually can I moderate this thread Mr Moderator?

                      Hmmm on that I don't see how moderating swear words is more important then moderating the anti hope messages people readily vomit into these threads :P
                      If you get a chance, can you ask further details? Are the stats on increased hair counts or increased terminal hairs? Did they give any other details? I imagine they gave a presentation, so there must be more info....

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                      • vinnytr
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 227

                        #26
                        This is awesome news

                        KIWI , can you find out from your friend if this can be used in people that had HT to increase density & lower hairline ?

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Scientalk56
                          2000 USD every two years is pretty expensive.
                          TAKE MY MONEY!

                          $2,000 USD is a lot easier to save up every two years than $8,000-14,000 in a single shot for a solution with a good HT doctor or Dr. Gho.

                          I'll gladly pay that price every two years to regrow and maintain what I get out of it. Hell, I got $2,000 ready for the procedure RIGHT NOW.

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                          • neversaynever
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 640

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            TAKE MY MONEY!

                            $2,000 USD is a lot easier to save up every two years than $8,000-14,000 in a single shot for a solution with a good HT doctor or Dr. Gho.

                            I'll gladly pay that price every two years to regrow and maintain what I get out of it. Hell, I got $2,000 ready for the procedure RIGHT NOW.
                            Completely forgot its in $. Thats £1200 for me. Absolute bargain IMO if it works like they say it does. If it was available right now i would be willing to pay triple. Hope they give us some proper info soon

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                            • TravisB
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 188

                              #29
                              I don't like to be a party pooper but let's not get too excited.

                              I smell bullshit.

                              Don't you think if they really achieved such great results it would be in the worldwide news? Or at least the whole case would be more loud. Such regrowth is not something that goes by silently, you know.

                              Right now the only "source" we have is some Kiwi's "colleague" who might as well be lying. We have ZERO evidence.

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                              • neversaynever
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 640

                                #30
                                Originally posted by TravisB
                                I don't like to be a party pooper but let's not get too excited.

                                I smell bullshit.

                                Don't you think if they really achieved such great results it would be in the worldwide news? Or at least the whole case would be more loud. Such regrowth is not something that goes by silently, you know.

                                Right now the only "source" we have is some Kiwi's "colleague" who might as well be lying. We have ZERO evidence.
                                Phase 2 is still in motion, and histogen havent been the type to run to mainstream media with news.

                                In fact, the only guys ive seen in the mainstream recently is the Dr Cots team, and thats because he alerted everyone.

                                If i were in charge at histogen at this moment in time, id prefer to keep things very quiet, at least until phase 3 starts. Its not in their benefit to drum up mainstream attention when they are still wrapping up phase 2.

                                And if the media do catch on, histogen only have to refuse interviews. What will the big media companies talk about? PDF presentations and an interview on the bald truth? Whenever replicel or whoever else were in the news, its because they approached the mainstream, not the other way around.

                                Youre right about zero evidence though. But im quite sure histogen will release an update soon (as they have done in the past). So we'll know soon enough.

                                I havent been able to open their site all evening. Same for everyone else?

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