Histogen at the ISHRS conference

[Kiwi]

Kiwi, if your lying about your so called inside info than your just pure evil to mess with the baldnation. However, if you are truly telling the truth than godbless your contribution to help us have some hope, because we need it.

Bro why would I lie.

Heck its not like what I posted is even ground breaking news. I'm depressed and sad that its not here yet and when my doc shared what he heard at a conference with me it gave me just a little glimmer of hope which I figure we could all do with.

Noob jerks like Travis can **** off and die man - ignore the haters and whiners. They deserve to loose all their hair if they can't keep on topic and have nothing positive to say.

[neversaynever]

There's a possibility for phase II/III in 2013. that's what dr zeiring said in his last interview with spencer. but nobody knows yet.

if everything goes well, they will end phase 3 in 2015 and release it in asia.
But in USA they need an FDA approval.

2013 - phase II b / III a (a year)
2014 - phase III b (a year)
2015 release
That's what i hope it would be if everything goes well.

Hmm its a nice hope, but theyll probably not start next phase until late 2013 given their track record so far, and start phase 3 in 2015. But lets hope its your version, not mine!

[Ginkosama]

Jesus, calculating cash flows for the pharmaceutical industry must be such a pain in the ass...
Every new drug development is such a risky investment...

[clandestine]

This thread is win. Kiwi; I, and others, are entirely appreciative of your post. Thank you.

Hope is all we have. Start to *****ing realize it; tbt.

[Breaking Bald]

Pretty sure the site has been updated?

[Kiwi]

Pretty sure the site has been updated?

What you mean willis?

[rdawg]

2k is alot at the moment IMO, only because I haven't seen this stuff make huge gains.

if the solution/results get better this year in phase 2b, I'd say it's a good price, but for what it does now, not worth it.

At this moment, judging by pictures and the statements, it seems to maintain and then grow about 20-30% hair, that's solid, but that might only bump you up a norwood, is that really worth 2000 dollars?

Just hoping they improve the results in this phase.

[rdawg]

There's a possibility for phase II/III in 2013. that's what dr zeiring said in his last interview with spencer. but nobody knows yet.

if everything goes well, they will end phase 3 in 2015 and release it in asia.
But in USA they need an FDA approval.

2013 - phase II b / III a (a year)
2014 - phase III b (a year)
2015 release
That's what i hope it would be if everything goes well.

Im very confused on the american process.

A: why hasn't it started?
B: why cant it go at the same time as the asian one?
C: Why does it take an extra 2-3 years?

[yeahyeahyeah]

2k is alot at the moment IMO, only because I haven't seen this stuff make huge gains.

if the solution/results get better this year in phase 2b, I'd say it's a good price, but for what it does now, not worth it.

At this moment, judging by pictures and the statements, it seems to maintain and then grow about 20-30% hair, that's solid, but that might only bump you up a norwood, is that really worth 2000 dollars?

Just hoping they improve the results in this phase.

If you are a NW3,NW2, or starting to bald. Yes it is.

[rdawg]

If you are a NW3,NW2, or starting to bald. Yes it is.

That's very true actually, I'd say it's worth it then for sure.

but NW4+ not at all, NW4 going to NW3 wont help much with confidence and will feel like a bit of a waste of 2000. Great product(as of right now, this can change) for moderate sufferers, yet to be seen if it's good for heavy sufferers.

Here's hoping Fin keeps me at NW2.5-3 until this stuff comes out like it's doing so far.

[Pate]

That's very true actually, I'd say it's worth it then for sure.

but NW4+ not at all, NW4 going to NW3 wont help much with confidence and will feel like a bit of a waste of 2000. Great product(as of right now, this can change) for moderate sufferers, yet to be seen if it's good for heavy sufferers.

Here's hoping Fin keeps me at NW2.5-3 until this stuff comes out like it's doing so far.

I disagree about NW4+. The advantage for these guys will be combining with HTs to increase density. Histogen said after their previous trial that each injection averaged 25 new hairs, so 100 injections could potentially give 2500 new hairs which is about 1200 FUs. You'd be hard pressed to find a top class FUE doc who'd give you 1200 grafts for $2k.

Add a second set of 100 and you might get the equivalent of around 2500 grafts. For a NW6 that could make all the difference.

[yeahyeahyeah]

That's very true actually, I'd say it's worth it then for sure.

but NW4+ not at all, NW4 going to NW3 wont help much with confidence and will feel like a bit of a waste of 2000. Great product(as of right now, this can change) for moderate sufferers, yet to be seen if it's good for heavy sufferers.

Here's hoping Fin keeps me at NW2.5-3 until this stuff comes out like it's doing so far.

A NW4 can use this in conjunction with a HT to go 2 Norwoods down.

I can imagine HT doctors becoming less conservative with their HTs once this comes out.

[Kiwi]

OMG - if I can go from a norwood 4 to a 3 then its totally worth it.

If Histogen can slow down my hairloss without taking away my labido then yes I'm going to pay $2000

Propecia almost cost me my marriage!!!

[goingquick]

Add a second set of 100 and you might get the equivalent of around 2500 grafts. For a NW6 that could make all the difference.

But could they space out those injections to cover an NW6 zone, or do they have to adhere to 50 injections within one square inch (or 2.5 square inch if they are doing 6mm spacing, as you mentioned in a previous post).

[FearTheLoss]

What about the possibility of unlimited donor hair? That is a big deal too!