New Stemcell Treatment Photos... wow?

[One]

Nigam answer now please!!!

Dr(?) Nigam why you don't answer on the faked pictures?

[JJJJrS]

dear jjj,i am here for discussion on HM,and ur again shifting the discussion to dr nigam.HM is not patented by me.keep bashing dr nigam,but lets spent some constructive time on HM,or i misjudged u as highly intelligent and informed member. it seems you know me so well,that u now in detail how a doctor con's patient's,seems definitely u had been conned by someone. till my findings from the paper on HAIR DOUBLING supports my claim,i am offering free hairdoubling for next few months.At dr nigams ,patient pays only if he/she gets hair as desired...or on blank stamp paper money back or free unlimited grafts...can u digest ......,can call my clinic and find out.Seems to good to be true...!otherwise the common practice in ht clinics is u get what u pay...!by the way no biased critic will be entertained at my clinic,for any fortune he pays,make ur fundamentals clear,the right patients will reach me,i am not here to sell u,ur automatically feeling proud that the doctor is here to sell u...!

No thankfully, I have never been conned. I have a little better judgement than that and have read enough stories online to spot obvious charlatans. For some reason, I am always reminded of these stories when I read your threads though, I'm not sure why?

The posters on here, for the most part, are not scientists specializing in hair loss, although there are many who are very interested in the topic. So I have no interest in discussing the science of hair multiplication with you.

The faked pictures and safety issues are not something you can ignore. This is exactly what we would like to discuss with you, so I'll ask again that you please stop changing the subject and address these very important issues.

[drnigams]

delphi,what does the doctor offer to a patient of alopecia totallis , or lichen planus,or a patient of broque,or a burn case,when no other option is available..ofcourse biofibres are an option after ruling out any rejection for the same by a fibre test for 3 months.

[neversaynever]

Dear NEVERSAY,let's talk about safety issue, the moment aderan's got safety clearance by USFDA, with their first phase of clinical trials,except european and few other regulators,most of the regulators across the world accept USFDA safety clearance,especially for the process and not for the stemcell marketed as drug .Other phases of clinical trials are for efficacy and claim.as there is different regulation for drug approval and different regulation for over the counter medicines.similarly the approval for a technique like dr gho's,who also claims preservation of samples with stemcell stimulation with growth factors,the approval for safety is not rigid,because the board certifed doctor is monitoring the patient,for example if u have a cough ,the doctor can compound a new formula by mixing various syrups and dispense.but in a pharmacy such a medicine cannot exist till drug trials for safety are cleared.By the way my dear friend ,niether USFDA,nor aderans,nor drnigam or anyone else can guarantee safety of any drug or process for more than the the duration of it's launch,after phase 1 clearance all are on the same boat.every drug literature mentions potential side effects,including finasteride. when a board certified dr. introduces a new procedure ,in case he is questioned ,if any sidee effect occurs,he has to produce supporting documents,patients informed consent etc,dr, is considered safe for lighter regulations,because he cannot be termed mass product available in the pharmacy,but a safe option to try out new processes ,since he can diagnose and give cure for any adverse effect,the patient is under his monitoring.U believe anything which is western or from a large corporation...why and how is the CO FATHER OF HT,dr.bernstein in newyork offering autocloning free from his clinic,go to his website and read last para on autocloning,atleast now u should not doubt for the safety of my process,i am as unsafe as aderans..!

I understand that all, in whichever country, face potential risks. That of course includes Aderans. We all know this, and I certainly do not believe in anything which is western.

Aderans are, however, conforming to FDA regulations, which are quite strict. They will have to demonstrate their safety margin, protocols, and investigations. If anything is not to FDA's liking, Aderans (and histogen) will not get approved.

From what I understand, you do not need to present the safety of your procedure to the Indian regulatory boards? From what you've said, the indian board will accept your procedure if the FDA approve aderans?

That last point is my main concern. You are not regulated. Aderans are regulated. Maybe it makes no difference and you have no safety concerns and never will, but I think right now its fair to say you are operating without regulations.

This puts you in a great position to find a solution, but in our eyes it also makes it easier for you to perhaps lie about certain things (im sorry to say).

At this point, aderans have revealed in presentations their plans safety and results so far. They will also investigate why certain people do not respond, and also make effort to track the movement of injected cells and just how many are recruited. This all makes sense to me. You have yet to present anything to us in a professional manner.

Other points have been made, such as your use of artificial hair, which is banned in many many countries. Why do you offer this if you can do HM, doubling, fue, automated fue, fut?

Let me assure you i hold no biased to the east or west. I am focused only on the facts and evidence in front of me. The people of these forums have seen many many lies, that is why people are suspicious of you. Please continue to present us proper information. You are asking us to trust you, but you have to earn trust...

[drnigams]

dear jjj,i am here for discussion on HM,and ur again shifting the discussion to dr nigam.HM is not patented by me.keep bashing dr nigam,but lets spent some constructive time on HM,or i misjudged u as highly intelligent and informed member. it seems you know me so well,that u now in detail how a doctor con's patient's,seems definitely u had been conned by someone. till my findings from the paper on HAIR DOUBLING supports my claim,i am offering free hairdoubling for next few months.At dr nigams ,patient pays only if he/she gets hair as desired...or on blank stamp paper money back or free unlimited grafts...can u digest ......,can call my clinic and find out.Seems to good to be true...!otherwise the common practice in ht clinics is u get what u pay...!by the way no biased critic will be entertained at my clinic,for any fortune he pays,make ur fundamentals clear,the right patients will reach me,i am not here to sell u,ur automatically feeling proud that the doctor is here to sell u...!

[JJJJrS]

Dear NEVERSAY,let's talk about safety issue, the moment aderan's got safety clearance by USFDA, with their first phase of clinical trials,except european and few other regulators,most of the regulators across the world accept USFDA safety clearance,especially for the process and not for the stemcell marketed as drug .Other phases of clinical trials are for efficacy and claim.as there is different regulation for drug approval and different regulation for over the counter medicines.similarly the approval for a technique like dr gho's,who also claims preservation of samples with stemcell stimulation with growth factors,the approval for safety is not rigid,because the board certifed doctor is monitoring the patient,for example if u have a cough ,the doctor can compound a new formula by mixing various syrups and dispense.but in a pharmacy such a medicine cannot exist till drug trials for safety are cleared.By the way my dear friend ,niether USFDA,nor aderans,nor drnigam or anyone else can guarantee safety of any drug or process for more than the the duration of it's launch,after phase 1 clearance all are on the same boat.every drug literature mentions potential side effects,including finasteride. when a board certified dr. introduces a new procedure ,in case he is questioned ,if any sidee effect occurs,he has to produce supporting documents,patients informed consent etc,dr, is considered safe for lighter regulations,because he cannot be termed mass product available in the pharmacy,but a safe option to try out new processes ,since he can diagnose and give cure for any adverse effect,the patient is under his monitoring.U believe anything which is western or from a large corporation...why and how is the CO FATHER OF HT,dr.bernstein in newyork offering autocloning free from his clinic,go to his website and read last para on autocloning,atleast now u should not doubt for the safety of my process,i am as unsafe as aderans..!

So basically, you can not provide any real guarantees on the safety of your procedure. No studies, clinical testing, just your word...

Although you have nothing to do with Aderans, you somehow believe that citing them is proof that your procedure is safe?! Aderans, by the way, is currently still undergoing clinical safety trails and is not available to the general public. Dr. Bernstein is also not offering hair multiplication, let alone for free. How are these examples proof the your treatment is safe?

I think any patient undergoing a procedure at this clinic should proceed with extreme caution. I would be very afraid to go to a clinic that brushes off these safety issues like "Dr." Nigam does.

[sausage]

You do have a point (but remember English is not his first language).

It is clear he knows how to write English as he has written most correctly, the mistakes ie: 'ur' and 'u are' he has clearly chosen to speak in text language, they are not spelling mistakes.

Anyway his message clearly is not a confidence booster. He is not answering the questions that matter. From that it's clearly bull.

[drnigams]

Dear NEVERSAY,let's talk about safety issue, the moment aderan's got safety clearance by USFDA, with their first phase of clinical trials,except european and few other regulators,most of the regulators across the world accept USFDA safety clearance,especially for the process and not for the stemcell marketed as drug .Other phases of clinical trials are for efficacy and claim.as there is different regulation for drug approval and different regulation for over the counter medicines.similarly the approval for a technique like dr gho's,who also claims preservation of samples with stemcell stimulation with growth factors,the approval for safety is not rigid,because the board certifed doctor is monitoring the patient,for example if u have a cough ,the doctor can compound a new formula by mixing various syrups and dispense.but in a pharmacy such a medicine cannot exist till drug trials for safety are cleared.By the way my dear friend ,niether USFDA,nor aderans,nor drnigam or anyone else can guarantee safety of any drug or process for more than the the duration of it's launch,after phase 1 clearance all are on the same boat.every drug literature mentions potential side effects,including finasteride. when a board certified dr. introduces a new procedure ,in case he is questioned ,if any sidee effect occurs,he has to produce supporting documents,patients informed consent etc,dr, is considered safe for lighter regulations,because he cannot be termed mass product available in the pharmacy,but a safe option to try out new processes ,since he can diagnose and give cure for any adverse effect,the patient is under his monitoring.U believe anything which is western or from a large corporation...why and how is the CO FATHER OF HT,dr.bernstein in newyork offering autocloning free from his clinic,go to his website and read last para on autocloning,atleast now u should not doubt for the safety of my process,i am as unsafe as aderans..!

[didi]

How the hell did he conclude 50% succes rate if he didnt take 'b4' n 'after' photos?


this is hilarious

[JJJJrS]

Dr, please give us details of how this "unintentional mistake" occured. We all find it very strange, so for the sake of your own reputation on these forums, please give us a detailed explaination of why your designer would take such a liberty without being instructed to do so..

Thanks

Agreed.

Dr. Nigam, please address this issue in detail.

[One]

You still haven't provided a clear answer though. Why were all the before and after pictures for your "hair multiplication" procedure on your website faked?

I'm not the only one who is asking this question and at a minimum you need to provide a clear explanation for how something like that can occur. This is a very serious "mistake" and ignoring it is not going to help.

Nigam answer now please!!!

[JJJJrS]

Its so true. He will say the designer took the liberty. What kind of designer would take such a liberty? Plus, the information in the website about HM is all word for word copied from other studies. These studies are referenced at the end. Quite clever. To your average not a clue joe, it looks like Nigams scientific knowledge about HM is amazing. Did the designer take that liberty too?

Furthermore, by directly mentioning Gho on his site, hasci might be very interested. I have made them aware.

Because aderans and histogen appears to be safe so far, does not make Nigams HM safe. He uses different methods under different regulations (if any).

And what kind of scientist cures baldness and doesnt gather evidence, even just for his/her own studies? Is that a crucial part of all of this?

Nigams scientific answers on forums are copied from other studies. You will notice when the standard of english improves hugely.

How can he have no form of publication (even in draft form) when he has cracked the problem of multiplying cells? Its bizzare. Almost as if he has casually achieved this breakthrough and applied it without any scientific vigour.

He has yet to answer a question clearly regarding HM in my opinion. But ill still keep an eye and see what happens. He says he will unveil himself in a few months...

There are so many issues that it's hard to know where to start. I always try to be open-minded and of course I would love to be wrong about this guy but there's a difference between being open-minded and being naive and gullible.

Someone who has such a revolutionary breakthrough in hair restoration would not behave like this. There would be no need to fake pictures, no need to offer synthetic hair implants, no need to advertise yourself on forums, and no need to copy other academic papers. With enough documentation and through word of mouth, the procedure would sell itself. What he's doing right now would put any serious scientist at risk, which is the last thing you want to do when you have the holy grail of hair loss treatments.

In my opinion, it's clear that he's trying to lure in desperate and gullible hair loss sufferers to come to Mumbai, pay the fees, and get injected with God knows what. Afterwards, when the procedure turns out not to work, he'll claim you must have been one of the unlucky 50% who the procedure doesn't work on. In the meantime, he'll offer FUT or synthetic hair implants at a discounted price. When you ask for your money back, he'll simply ignore you and good luck trying to get it back. Very easy way to con people.

[neversaynever]

Who can trust a doctor who writes your 'ur' etc etc and abuses others.

Not the sign of a professional doctor to me, or is that how Indian doctors act? Not the best way to sell yourself and your product.

You do have a point (but remember English is not his first language).

The only concern that I think is fair would be the regulations in India. Its not fair to get personal about Indians.

[didi]

I like how he copies and pastes technicalities about HM..His english writing improves dramaticly

He cant spell some common words but when it comes to HM Dr is a gun..for example words like:

immunohistochemical biomarkers....he got those words spelt right as if they are common words like 'dog' or 'cat'...

or trichophytic ..infundibulum ..

dr bollywoods mastered art of copy and paste

[sausage]

Who can trust a doctor who writes your 'ur' etc etc and abuses others.

Not the sign of a professional doctor to me, or is that how Indian doctors act? Not the best way to sell yourself and your product.