New Stemcell Treatment Photos... wow?

[drnigams]

Dear KREWEL, We have seen growth with HM injections around the borders of existing hairline around temples.Normally we first do FUE on hairline and temples,and after a month, give HM injection on the temples and hairline.The reason is,adult stemcells from hair follicle can either become skin or hairfollicle.The temple area which is totally bald ,sometimes without even dormant telogen follicles,the DNA signalling required to differentiate to a hair follicle is missing.A forum member has just got his 100 donor grafts extracted today for first injection of HM ,i will document his results.He is a case of diffuse pattern hair loss i.e loosing his hair even at the sides and back of scalp.We are marking his scalp into 1sqcm areas,counting with microscopic pics,the initial villous hair and terminal hair per sqcm across the scalp,will post next week and then followup once a month for one year,hope the patient is available for the whole year,as he is from outside India.

Have you been able to induce regrowth at the temple region?
I am looking forward to your scientific papers, starts to sound interesting. I really appreciate the fact, that you are showing up here.

[didi]

maybe this is not REAL dr nigam,
what if somebody is pretending to be him n posting under his name..


can any Dr be this stupid and naive??scientist, scholar...

[neversaynever]

it all ready did...

see: faked photos and ever-changing story


If it is real, us giving the doc no attention for the next three months isn't going to stop his HM from coming to fruition. So lets just drop it, cause at this point, it's not worth the trouble.

Its an internet forum, we have the choice to post in the thread or not. You do have a point about waiting for a few months, but I dont see the point in dropping it, we can simply choose to not view the thread if we are not interested.

Noone on the forum is commiting to going india and getting injected with funky stuff just yet, so what difference does it make?

Dont know if you've noticed, the vast majority of threads in this section of the forum is pure speculation and anticipation. From histogen to pgd2 to aderans to nigam to many others. Why dont we just drop all of it until there's some proper news?

[NeedHairASAP]

Still confused by this all If he really is a fraud, surely what he is doing on this forum will only backfire?

it all ready did...

see: faked photos and ever-changing story


If it is real, us giving the doc no attention for the next three months isn't going to stop his HM from coming to fruition. So lets just drop it, cause at this point, it's not worth the trouble.

[NeedHairASAP]

This is what dr nigam said about shopped images:


28.11.2012, 16:03
'» Dear member,this patient has shaved out his scalp where he needed SHM injections and arterial prp,which u r pointing out.thats why his hair r thicker where he already had thinned out hair.thanks for being skeptical, i already told moopookoo to give me 30days to send the photographer with fresh pics... let me see ...your comments than.. u can see me on skype and my before pics are already on my website..i hope there is no photoshop technology possible on skype...!'


'Dear moopookoo, the pic ur mentioning,the guys vertex with thin hair was shaved off,before SHM injections and arterial prp.hence he has thicker growth of natural hair in that area.Regarding angle of hair, please try to click your own photos for next 3to 4 days ,u may find 2 pics with same angle of hair'


29.11.2012, 13:51
'yes i am embrassed myself, after reading comments on the forum,I fully understand that the content of the website should have my approval, specially before after pic. I joined this forum ,because i was excited with informed questions,and the quality of debate,i acnowledge and apologise for the mistake of my web development firm. '



This is bald truth, Dr Nigam

Why did you defend fake pix by saying that patient shaved his top off in b4 pic and 'exact same hair angles and background'' are normal even if photos are taken 6 months apart?

I think this catalogue of Nigam's posts pretty much seals the deal: THIS IS NOT REAL


the doc acted like he treated the guy, and then all the sudden acted like he was not involved = Fake


sorry for bringing this one up guys....


I say we drop the subject, even asking more questions. If this is real, we'll know in the next couple months. Albeit, it is definitely not real, so we wont know. Just saying IF it is.

[Supersixx]

"Majority of the patients who come to my clinic are through print advertisements and word of mouth. India is a country with a population of 1.2 billion. At any given point of time there are 20 patients with their friend or relatives at the clinic, which is open for 12 hours a day, 365 days a year. "

I onced thought the crowd standing around the 3 card Monty table was actually winning til I lost , and lost again. Now I know better. You just proved my point from the other day.

"Since internet connectivity in India is not as high as western world, patients take the decision after meeting the doctor, his credibility in media, his certification, his infrastructure and most importantly by talking to,the 15-20 patients sitting at the clinic lobby, at any given time, while waiting for the consultation."

"And they always look for credibility of the doctor in the media, patients rush at the clinic, his international tie-ups and his qualifications. It will be confusing to them, if I talk too much technical"

So there is no shortage of candidates that would desperately take the good doctor on his word. Also out of over 6000 patients a year (according to you ) , those are the best of pictures and results of such cutting edge work?

"With the explanation of above routine and how our patients judge us, I hardly paid any attention to my website but briefly gave instruction about different pages including before/after photo page from where you picked-up this photo to the graphic designer and web-developer who are 21 and 23 yrs old. It was my mistake that I gave them additional responsibility of calling up to the data base of HM, FUE and FUT patients for clicking follow-up pics also. Since they were not meant for this additional job, they could not give me the results in time, I was angry with them and pushing them hard, that I was not happy with the quality of pics what I wanted"

So you throw the young web designers under the bus for posting bad pics because you don't have time to check your website, but yet , you find time to be on every other hairloss site?

Let me say this, I'm no doctor, I'm no scientist, nor do i claim to be , but I do have common sense like most on TBT. Im straight to the point and HATE liars. For someone to think that there is any credibility with you is an insult to the real doctors and researchers out putting in work and going thru the process. Your site is deceiving, your photos are shopped and your answers are plagiarized. You say you do HM and stem cell, well that's what the world is waiting on. How come you can't put out a descent before after pic w same hair length, same color, same angle, just more hair count?

[didi]

hes achieving better results than Gho by 20%,

i like nigams round figures, 50,30,20,20%....very scientific i must say


Winston

pls ban nigam and close this thread,

[neversaynever]

Dr nigam. Let me ask you a question that has nothing to do with the photos. I hope you'll answer.

Why do you think you are achieving better results that Aderans and replicell? Please give a detailed answer....

[neversaynever]

I think Nigam has lost all credibility with the largely western audience on these forums, and these forum threads will now be online forever. It would take huge effort to reverse this damage to his reputation. Photos are no longer valid, because he has shown that he was commiting fraud. The only things acceptable now are:

Scientific journals / presentations
Video
And first hand evidence from trusted forum members.

If he decides to commit fraud again in the scientific journals, then I would hope that his clinic be shut down and he be charged for serious crimes that involve dangerous or fake medical procedures. Dr Nigam, this is the reality you face by coming to these forums. You cant blame your web designer. Please compare your website with the websites of other hair clinics in europe and america. I hope you can see the difference.

Truth is, even nice websites are often fronts for bogus treatments. So the only option you have remaining now are proven links to people like Lauster and publications which are your own work and writing. This is like being in school, being told by the teacher how to write-up a scientific experiment properly....so weird.

He is right about his indian clients though. If you look a well known, respected indian HT doctor (dr A), his website is quite poor too. Thought I have no doubt in the authencity of the photos. He recently re-vamped his site, but it still looks amatuer. So in that light, maybe nigam has a point. But those fake photos have done the damage.

[Breaking Bald]

Still confused by this all If he really is a fraud, surely what he is doing on this forum will only backfire?

[The Alchemist]

This OBI guy from arabia will have HM done by Nigam, he cant be trusted, this is what he wrote on hs on 27.11.2012, 10:50

'For the record ..
I'm professional photographer and graphic designer , I checked the photos in Dr Nigam website .. there's nooo editing has been done to the photo .



Dr Nigam .
Please answer this question , It's very important because i'm planning to visit you in 19th december :
- IS there any side effect ? there's clams that this type of operation may cause cancer .. ?!!'


He joined forum around the time nigam started posting,


we all know how few days later Nigam admitted manipulating images to impress ...


Sentence:Ban OBI if he is on this forum,

OBI showed up and started posting at HS right after Nigram did. Right away he was defending Nigram and the two were buddy-buddy.

OBI showed photos of his passport and flight info to India, so everyone started believing he was legit. However, i'm not at all convinced. Unless his scalp is shot with a usb microscope and we can see the regrowth occuring before our eyes...his testimony is worthless.

At this point, the one and only thing that could sway my opinion on Nigram is if he co-authors and publishes a paper with Lauster. Not just gets his name on the paper b/c he donated some money or equipment for the research, but is actually involved in conducting the science and writing up the paper.

That's it. Until then, he's just another fraud coming out of India which are a a dime a dozen these days...the same as Rinky Kapoor and the other charlatans who were trying to sell us QR796 or whatever it was years ago. Claimed they spent 6 years isolating the proteins and now were just waiting on a patent before they cured the world of baldness. Yeah right. Sure as heck sounds very familiar to what Nigrams is doing here now.

[bananana]

[QUOTE=VictimOfDHT;94837]Ha ha ha ha ha ha..../QUOTE]

Indeed this and at least 2 other photos that WERE on the site were photoshopped. But the new ones aren't faked, at least they don't look like faked. They're in bigger (some in huge) resolution and pretty clear.

I look forward to see more and more of photos like that, but I don't know what to say about past attempts of "getting away" with those horrible, low resolution fakes. Dr Nigam should just admit it and move on, only peer reviewed and scientifically approved papers can prove the truth now.

Also, mr. Bharat Kamdar from Mumbai, who I personally contacted - who said he DIDN'T do HM but regular FUE, (2. picture in first post on this thread) and he said that is not his picture. Ok, that might just be a mistake, wrong name under the wrong pic.

But doctor please, if you are for real, NO MORE EXCUSES and no more failed photoshop attempts. Please consider this VERY seriously because these threads will follow you until the rest of your life. They will probably stay on google FOREVER.

That said, your whole business and reputation depends on these forums, everyone interested in your work will google your name.
Please take it seriously.

[didi]

This is what dr nigam said about shopped images:


28.11.2012, 16:03
'» Dear member,this patient has shaved out his scalp where he needed SHM injections and arterial prp,which u r pointing out.thats why his hair r thicker where he already had thinned out hair.thanks for being skeptical, i already told moopookoo to give me 30days to send the photographer with fresh pics... let me see ...your comments than.. u can see me on skype and my before pics are already on my website..i hope there is no photoshop technology possible on skype...!'


'Dear moopookoo, the pic ur mentioning,the guys vertex with thin hair was shaved off,before SHM injections and arterial prp.hence he has thicker growth of natural hair in that area.Regarding angle of hair, please try to click your own photos for next 3to 4 days ,u may find 2 pics with same angle of hair'


29.11.2012, 13:51
'yes i am embrassed myself, after reading comments on the forum,I fully understand that the content of the website should have my approval, specially before after pic. I joined this forum ,because i was excited with informed questions,and the quality of debate,i acnowledge and apologise for the mistake of my web development firm. '



This is bald truth, Dr Nigam

Why did you defend fake pix by saying that patient shaved his top off in b4 pic and 'exact same hair angles and background'' are normal even if photos are taken 6 months apart?

[didi]

This OBI guy from arabia will have HM done by Nigam, he cant be trusted, this is what he wrote on hs on 27.11.2012, 10:50

'For the record ..
I'm professional photographer and graphic designer , I checked the photos in Dr Nigam website .. there's nooo editing has been done to the photo .



Dr Nigam .
Please answer this question , It's very important because i'm planning to visit you in 19th december :
- IS there any side effect ? there's clams that this type of operation may cause cancer .. ?!!'


He joined forum around the time nigam started posting,


we all know how few days later Nigam admitted manipulating images to impress ...


Sentence:Ban OBI if he is on this forum,

[didi]

'I can only say, experience Dr. Nigam's hair multiplication at Mumbai, India, with return air fare ticket with accomodation from my side and if you do not get result in 6 months you can claim a refund on stamp paper. You can also ask any of your Doctor, Dermatologist, Plastic Surgeon or Tissue Engineer friend to put the technical questions to me, I will be more than happy to answer.

Best regards

Dr. Nigam


This is good offer, any takers