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  • neversaynever
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    Originally posted by drnigams
    Ur absolutely correct,But u have to understand,in the initial phase of research on HM,i was only interested to convince myself and to see sufficient number of cases with sprouting of hair after HM.When it started happening,all of us got excited,and use to gather around the patient to see the HM results with the naked eye. I wanted to come out in open with published paper and well documented photos by next year.I joined forums one month back,i am speeding up the process of documentation ,as mentioned in the reply to gc,but can't grow hair overnight..! 5 patient pic's are already there on my site. 30 plus patients living around the clinic have already been informed to visit clinic for pic's. U r fully aware ,the pic's required by forum members have to be in optical zoom,without flash,in daylight preferably,in macro and super macro mode,with same hairstyle,with same angle as before pic's,with comb brushes to show origin of grafts. U cannot expect my patients to mail me with these specifications. Won't dissappoint u,more pic's shortly,as i am totally occupied with the HM and HAIR DOUBLING study.Have patience,otherwise u will be demotivating experts to post openly in the forums,and u will end up doing more harm ,than contributing with ur informed questions and suggestions for HM research. How patients in my country choose a HT surgeon is different from how u choose in ur part of the world.The consumer communication is different for different markets.One consumer has no right to doubt the intellect of other consumer. Patient's here want results with affordable cost,and after meeting their surgeon in person ,they decide whether to choose him or not.
    No HM experts post on the forums, they never have.

    Dr Nigam, what exactly is the relationship you have with Dr Lauster and the 'tokyo team'?

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  • drnigams
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    Neversaynever.......Ur absolutely correct,But u have to understand,in the initial phase of research on HM,i was only interested to convince myself and to see sufficient number of cases with sprouting of hair after HM.When it started happening,all of us got excited,and use to gather around the patient to see the HM results with the naked eye. I wanted to come out in open with published paper and well documented photos by next year.I joined forums one month back,i am speeding up the process of documentation ,as mentioned in the reply to gc,but can't grow hair overnight..! 5 patient pic's are already there on my site.30 plus patients living around the clinic have already been informed to visit clinic for pic's. U r fully aware ,the pic's required by forum members have to be in optical zoom,without flash,in daylight preferably,in macro and super macro mode,with same hairstyle,with same angle as before pic's,with comb brushes to show origin of grafts. U cannot expect my patients to mail me with these specifications. Won't dissappoint u,more pic's shortly,as i am totally occupied with the HM and HAIR DOUBLING study.Have patience,otherwise u will be demotivating experts to post openly in the forums,and u will end up doing more harm ,than contributing with ur informed questions and suggestions for HM research. How patients in my country choose a HT surgeon is different from how u choose in ur part of the world.The consumer communication is different for different markets.One consumer has no right to doubt the intellect of other consumer. Patient's here want results with affordable cost,and after meeting their surgeon in person ,they decide whether to choose him or not.

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  • didi
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    Our Vision: "To be the worlds largest hair transplant chain of clinics by 8th January 2017 (in terms of highest number of hair transplants per month under the brand Dr. Nigam)".



    8th of Jan 2017

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  • J_B_Davis
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    Hello Dr. Nigam, I have a few questions myself. Hair Stem cell multiplication would indeed be the end all be all in hair restoration and I can see why so many guys on the forum are so interested in what you are claiming to do as well as what Dr. Gho is claiming to do. If you are really able to accomplish this, why is it that we are just hearing about you now? This is the only credible hair loss forum on the internet, yet you have not really offered any real evidence of your claims here.
    Have you presented your finding to Spencer Kobren and The American Hair Loss Association for review? I would think that this would be your first step to legitimize your claims. I do hope that what you offer does what you claim, but I am sure you can understand my skepticism in light of your lack of credible evidence.

    Thank you in advance for your response.

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  • drnigams
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    correct,tht's why i was asking u about HSI doubling,which seems to be partial FU transected FUE ?

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  • drnigams
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    I have just replied to ur post ,in the other forum,hope u got it.You will get complete scientific study with evidence in my study paper to be published in 2013,as mentioned to gc, in the earlier post in the same thread.

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by drnigams
    Not less than 8 grafts.
    So you will implant 2 follicular units which both consist of the same properties of the original Follicular unit? So in effect in the recipient you can implant 2 FU's and both of these FU's both contain 4 hairs?

    Correct?

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  • neversaynever
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    Im not interested in doubling, im interested in the holy grail, hair multiplication. Dr nigam, im struggling to understand one thing, I hope you can answer...

    To be achieving what you claim, your work in the labs can not have been easy. The hair follicle is a complex organ-like part of our scalps.

    Im sure you have worked very hard to make improvements and continue to do so. Once you have a treatment, and begin to apply it to patients, the next step is to of course analyze the results...

    This is where Im confused. You have made such a big effort to achieve something so great, but thought it is not important to document the results for your own scientific analysis? The collection of evidence is just as important as the research, without the evidence (for yours and our benefit), how can your research be valid?

    How do you collect scientific evidence of HM results?

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  • drnigams
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    Not less than 8 grafts.

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  • gc83uk
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    I'm finding it hard to understand your answers. I'm sorry to say! Perhaps you can use paragraphs too please.

    If you extract a 4 hair graft during a normal FUE procedure, the dr would implant a 4 hair graft placed into the recipient area.

    So the net gain of overall hair = 0

    This is fine for FUE, but can you give me a clear answer if possible what would be the net gain using your doubling procedure with a 4 hair graft?

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  • drnigams
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    gc,u had been a client of HSI.As we all know,the length of hairfollicle is 4.16mm mean from the surface of skin.And the diametre of a hairfollicle is 70 micronmetre mean. (How is the longitudnal partial follicular unit different from normal FUE (.5mm or .6mm) punch to extract FU which say, has a diametre of .8mm to 1.5mm. Regarding stemcells in FU,they can only be activated in a lab after isolation with identification biomarkers,not in the clinic without isolation in a preservation medium.

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  • drnigams
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    gc,we r conducting following studies at present ,for publication in 2013. 1)HAIR DOUBLING BY TRANSVERSE BISECTION OF HAIR FOLLICULAR UNIT IN VIVO,IN VITRO WITH AND WITHOUT ACTIVATED FOLLICULAR UNIT STEMCELLS. 2)IN VIVO FOLLICULAR UNIT CONVERSION TO ANAGEN AND MULTIPLICATION WITH ACTIVATED AND MULTIPLIED STEMCELLS .IS IT POSSIBLE TO HARVEST UNLIMITED DONOR SUPPLY? We extract FU in vivo by fue .6mm to .8mm(inner diametre)punches and by 1.2mm(outer diametre )punch, when we bisect the follicle in vitro.We make two follicular units from one.We bisect the FU below the midfollicle bulge. Mean length of hairfollicle from the surface of the skin is 4.16mm.Bulge stemcell area ,starts from the 1mm depth to skin surface and continues upto 1.8mm mean length..hair diametre measurement with digital micrometre also helps in identifying the thick bulge of stemcells. Few fu's are sent to the lab for isolation and activation of stemcells to progenitor cells and injected into the implantation site of bissected follicles,so that stemcells which were missing in separated FU is returned back ,hence the bissected FU 'S have all the material to become terminal hair.

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by drnigams
    Good to see u again gc,thanx for ur suggestions.Have started shooting in optical zoom with macro and super macro mode,without flash,with same angles and near to same hairstyles.Only way to distinguish HM and FUE,probably, is to identify visible incisions on recipient sites or donor by FUE, especially in the first few months.As ur aware, monitoring the hair growth requires 6 months to 1year,i will definitely try to post the fresh ones 6 months down the line, in the meantime we r clicking pic's of patients who r coming for followups. As the hair grow 0.5 inches every month,normal hair and stemcell activated telogen will grow by more than 3cms in 4months ,as per the before /after pic.u mentioned.
    OK thats good to hear.

    Regarding your doubling technique. You have already explained that you extract from the donor area using a 1.2mm drill and the follicle is bisected into two halfs. Then both of these halfs are implanted into the recipient area OR 1 half in the recipient and the other half back into the donor where it was originally extracted.

    So if we were talking about a 4 hair graft which has been extracted from the donor, does this mean you split this 4 hair graft into 2 parts, so in effect you have 2 x 2 hair grafts? or do you end up with 2 x 4 hair grafts?

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  • drnigams
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    Good to see u again gc,thanx for ur suggestions.Have started shooting in optical zoom with macro and super macro mode,without flash,with same angles and near to same hairstyles.Only way to distinguish HM and FUE,probably, is to identify visible incisions on recipient sites or donor by FUE, especially in the first few months.As ur aware, monitoring the hair growth requires 6 months to 1year,i will definitely try to post the fresh ones 6 months down the line, in the meantime we r clicking pic's of patients who r coming for followups. As the hair grow 0.5 inches every month,normal hair and stemcell activated telogen will grow by more than 3cms in 4months ,as per the before /after pic.u mentioned.

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  • gc83uk
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    Hello again Dr Nigam,

    I'm sure everyone is excited at the prospect of HM and if you can bring this to fruition, then all the better.

    My question to you... Proving with pictures that HM has been done rather than a traditional FUE/Doubling might be your toughest task. I have seen some of your newer pictures showing HM and it just looks like regular FUE.

    I'm not doubting you personally, but I'm curious as to how you can prove HM.

    I personally believe you will need to create videos on the process along with some macro photography. And importantly show the SAME hair style in the before and after photo, looking at your before and after photos, it shows the before photo with short hair and the after photo with hair about 3 inches longer. They are not comparable for this very reason.

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