Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

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  • rdawg
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 996

    #91
    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    HSC going into phase 2 isn't a big deal, it's where aderans is at.
    we're kinda going in a circle here, but most reputable people say the next step is Phase III for histogen, they're gonna have to clarify it themselves.

    at least part of it will be going into phase III, they are most definitely ahead of where aderans is(which hasn't updated in a year.)

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4419

      #92
      Originally posted by rdawg
      we're kinda going in a circle here, but most reputable people say the next step is Phase III for histogen, they're gonna have to clarify it themselves.

      at least part of it will be going into phase III, they are most definitely ahead of where aderans is(which hasn't updated in a year.)
      Histogen is going to have to hurry up, Aderans is going to start Phase III trials soon (i think by February 2013 they should star Phase III). Their projected date of Q1 2014 of a commercial product would be quite possible if Phase III goes without any roadblocks.

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      • yeahyeahyeah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1776

        #93
        Originally posted by hellouser
        Histogen is going to have to hurry up, Aderans is going to start Phase III trials soon (i think by February 2013 they should star Phase III). Their projected date of Q1 2014 of a commercial product would be quite possible if Phase III goes without any roadblocks.
        I dont have high hopes about Aderans.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #94
          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
          I dont have high hopes about Aderans.
          Why not?

          10 char.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            #95
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Why not?

            10 char.
            They dont exactly have the best track record when it comes to meeting deadlines. Do they?

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1513

              #96
              Originally posted by rdawg
              Btw guys these two pictures are from results at 5 and 6 months, so who knows what they'll look like at say the 1 year mark.

              i'm interested in more pictures but overall still extremely positive.

              with actual solid results, this means this goes into phase III soon(yes phase III), meaning a late 2014/early 2015 release in europe, which is quite close.

              Not sure what they have to do for the states or whether or not they've even started a trial(can they do one simultaneously? can they skip right to phase II?)

              but guess wise with it going through each phase, we're looking at late 2015, early 2016 for the states.
              how can you be so positive? It's almost 2013 and this is THE BEST they have:



              You think something game-changing is going to happen in the next two short years?

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1776

                #97
                Originally posted by 2020
                how can you be so positive? It's almost 2013 and this is THE BEST they have:



                You think something game-changing is going to happen in the next two short years?
                Well he clearly hasnt lost anymore hair has he?

                That's good enough.

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                • 2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1513

                  #98
                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                  Well he clearly hasnt lost anymore hair has he?

                  That's good enough.
                  no it's not... we have tons of tools to stop hair loss and nothing for regrowth.
                  They're wasting time if they think their injections are better than swallowing a couple pills.

                  HSC represents a potentially revolutionary new injectable treatment for the millions suffering from hair loss, offering benefits over daily-use, limited efficacy prescription products as well as invasive surgical treatments.
                  really...

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                  • cleverusername
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 214

                    #99
                    Originally posted by 2020
                    no it's not... we have tons of tools to stop hair loss

                    They have sides, and up until now, HSC hasn't caused any sides so i'd say it's better.

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                    • Pate
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 417

                      Originally posted by 2020
                      how can you be so positive? It's almost 2013 and this is THE BEST they have
                      Until they have treated the entire balding area you cannot say anything about those macro photos. The pics you posted have a treated area of approx 0.3 sq inches. Wait til it's a 4 by 4 inch area.

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                      • 2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1513

                        Originally posted by cleverusername
                        They have sides, and up until now, HSC hasn't caused any sides so i'd say it's better.
                        all of them? I'm not even talking about propecia and rogaine. There are other things.

                        For HSC to be just another hair count "offseter" like rogaine would be a failure as for vast majority of people their hair loss is slow enough as it is.

                        Originally posted by Pate
                        Until they have treated the entire balding area you cannot say anything about those macro photos. The pics you posted have a treated area of approx 0.3 sq inches. Wait til it's a 4 by 4 inch area.
                        they did... ZIERING trials.

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                        • Breaking Bald
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 598

                          I am hoping that there will be more results to be released. 2020 why are they continuing with developing the product if there is no room for improvement?

                          I know I said this earlier and you implied that they are continuing it just for money. But if the treatment is really that poor and if they can't show decent results by the time it is ready for release then no one would spend any money on it what so ever! It isn't exactly cheap research and science to be continuing with so they must have confidence in their product, no?

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                          • Pate
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 417

                            Originally posted by 2020
                            they did... ZIERING trials.
                            The Ziering trials involved 20 injections in a small area. A 4x4 inch area would be about 700 injections at standard 4mm spacing.

                            So until you can show us pics of 700 injections repeated at 6 wks with no cosmetic difference, stop trolling vulnerable sufferers with your nonsense.

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                            • yeahyeahyeah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1776

                              Originally posted by 2020
                              no it's not... we have tons of tools to stop hair loss and nothing for regrowth.
                              They're wasting time if they think their injections are better than swallowing a couple pills.



                              really...
                              Not everyone wants to take a hormone altering drug

                              That includes Equol.

                              RU5636363636 is a pain in the ass as well.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                                Not everyone wants to take a hormone altering drug

                                That includes Equol.

                                RU5636363636 is a pain in the ass as well.
                                RU58841 aint that bad, you get used to it and it becomes a pretty quick process. But I agree, it is tedious in the long run to do it daily. However, it is a *way* better option than Finasteride, that garbage is so dangerous.

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