Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

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  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1776

    #31
    Originally posted by The Alchemist
    Yeah, there is no way Histogen will cost 10K+. This is something that can be mass produced and is easy to administer. An entire head could be done by one person in probably a very short amount of time i.e.. less than a half hour. The manual labor involved with a transplant, not only inhibits the number of patients they can treat, but costs a great deal of money. You need a team of well trained, expensive med techs and dr to put in a full day for one patient. That's why they cost so much.

    Histogen will probably be 1-2K for a treatment.
    It will be 5k max IMO

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    • DepressedByHairLoss
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 854

      #32
      The Alchemist: you're right bro. Histogen will not need to charge us nearly as much as these doctors do for a hair transplant. Histogen's treatment will be easy to administer, non-invasive, will not be time consuming, and will not require multiple assistants to perform it. And since Histogen's treatment will much more appealing to many more hair loss sufferers, they will not need to charge an arm and a leg just to make a profit. Hair transplants only appeal to like 7% of hair loss sufferers and I think that Histogen's treatment will raise that number exponentially. Also, Gail Naughton and her staff really seem to be ethical and caring people so I don't think they would excessively overcharge us anyway.

      JJJJrS and Kiwi: you guys are right too. We shouldn't be worried about price right now. We should just be happy that there is a non-invasive option that REGROWS hair as opposed to simply RE-LOCATING hair.

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      • Kirby_
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 439

        #33
        I hope they can launch this procedure for equivalent price of laser eye surgery, with similar walk-in, walk-out out-patient arrangements. It'd be truly mass market then - think of all the people who'd never contemplate a HT in a million years who'd be up for this. As long as they weren't squeamish about needles.

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        • JJacobs152
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 293

          #34
          What's the next step after this?

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            #35
            Originally posted by mjolnir
            I can easily save up $12k in 5 years. I can easily save up $12k in 6 months. That doesn't mean I want to spend that much on my vanity.
            I wouldnt call it vanity, it is MUCH more than that. It is your *FACE* thats affected by this bitch of a condition. It is your self esteem, your confidence, your appearance, the public's perception of you and your happiness. Its not vanity, that is just a copout for anyone who hasnt gone through hairloss themselves.

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1513

              #36
              Subjects receiving HSC in the temporal recession, which is known to be more difficult to treat than other areas of hair loss, saw marked improvement in terminal hair count, with a mean increase of 22.6% at 12 weeks and 25.2% at the 24 week time point.
              how the hell do you get 20% increase in TERMINAL HAIR COUNT? That spot was bald wasn't it. How do you come up with that number?

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #37
                Originally posted by rdawg
                Histogen at $15000 is laughable, there's a reason why many dont do a hair transplant and part of that is the cost. $12000 is on the lower end, most are higher but still, It's hard to justify tossing $15000 on a bit of hair when you're only making say 40,000 a year(if you're younger or whatever) it's just not practical.

                Histogen will be in the hundreds range IMO as that's cheap enough so that every hairloss sufferer can afford it once every few years. Once you get into the $1000's, you lose customers.

                EDIT: because this product is not a fullout reversal as well, it seems, so far, to only help with more moderate loss although I'm not sure what happens if you continue to inject in different spots.
                I know, I was only using a 'worst-case' scenario. I mean, who knows what the actual price is, but I've already stated in previous threads that I'm willing to drop cash on any treatment that isnt an HT or Finasteride. So far, this is looking absolutely amazing considering whats available today. I really do hope they get a speedy approval process but that I'm sure will be another 1-3 years or maybe more if they hit some kind of roadblock. But its obvious their technique works so shouldnt be too long.

                With myself though, I don't want to wait another 3 years and am already planning a visit to go just for my hairline (Gho because despite what naysayers say, id like to have donor hair regrow and not be limited by it). This route should give me more options in the future as opposed to FUE. Thank god Im only about an NW3 and can easily go back to NW1.

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                • 2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1513

                  #38
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  So far, this is looking absolutely amazing considering whats available today.
                  didn't I already post this:

                  What we have available:



                  What Histogen is offering as the "future" hair loss treatment:

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                  • JJacobs152
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 293

                    #39
                    Considering fin has some pretty crazy reported side effects...I'll give Histogen the upper hand on this. If the same results are seen with the two drugs, yet Histogen yields the results faster, as the data suggest, why isn't Histogen a better alternative than fin? It'll mean we'll probably have to walk into our local Plastic Surgeon's office, elect to have this in-office procedure done, pay him, and walk out.

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                    • JJacobs152
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 293

                      #40
                      Also, finasteride has been noted to be a teratogen, meaning if you and your wife want to have a baby, you'll have to stop taking the drug, otherwise it'll impact the development of your child. Stopping the drug = return of shedding.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #41
                        Originally posted by 2020
                        didn't I already post this:

                        What we have available:



                        What Histogen is offering as the "future" hair loss treatment:

                        Youre taking Fin's best result (a rare one at that, as not everyone is guaranteed THOSE results) vs Histogen's one single result that could be an average result.

                        Youre not in any position to make a final statement as to which is factually better without seeing some real world results. Sorry, but youre off base here.

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                        • yeahyeahyeah
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1776

                          #42
                          2020 is a troll who promoted equol, from a company that shut down.

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                          • john2399
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 521

                            #43
                            Dam 2020 just brought me back to reality. Maybe everyone is jumping the gun, specially talking about prices already. We need more pictures before we can really believe this treatment is effective enough.

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                            • 2020
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1513

                              #44
                              Originally posted by JJacobs152
                              Considering fin has some pretty crazy reported side effects...
                              oh shut up most people don't. I bet at least 70% will never have any problems ever with fin.

                              Originally posted by JJacobs152
                              I'll give Histogen the upper hand on this. If the same results are seen with the two drugs,
                              They're not! HSC is not even close.

                              Originally posted by JJacobs152
                              yet Histogen yields the results faster, as the data suggest, why isn't Histogen a better alternative than fin? It'll mean we'll probably have to walk into our local Plastic Surgeon's office, elect to have this in-office procedure done, pay him, and walk out.

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                              • 2020
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1513

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                Youre taking Fin's best result (a rare one at that, as not everyone is guaranteed THOSE results) vs Histogen's one single result that could be an average result.
                                RARE? That page has at least 100 other pics. Go visit hair loss forums or even THE OFFICIAL PROPECIA site.

                                That wasn't HSC ONE SINGLE RESULTS. That was their best. If their temple results were really that good as their numbers, they would have posted pictures. Why didn't they?

                                Also, why is his scalp so red? Wtf?

                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                Youre not in any position to make a final statement as to which is factually better without seeing some real world results. Sorry, but youre off base here.
                                how am I not?

                                Pictures of Propecia vs pictures of HSC

                                HSC doesn't come even close. Propecia wins.

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