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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    So we saw that Cetirizine was able to grow some very small hairs in slick bald areas. But did anyone experience any regrowth in thinning areas??

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    • Conpecia
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 904

      Over at *** forum they're still pressing on with this treatment, using a water vehicle. Apparently the Brazilians are getting into it as well. Most people have given up on it around here but it seems that progress is being made, albeit at a snail's pace. It works, but we haven't figured out the perfect dosage/vehicle. I haven't seen any groundbreaking pics, and I haven't visited the German forum in a month or so, but I'll say the best news from this Cet experiment is that I have yet to hear of someone who's been on it over 3 months say that their hair loss got worse. So there's still potential for this to have fin-like ability to stop loss in its tracks. Again, not enough data to confirm, and no news on whether it substantially thickens existing hair, but there is still hope for this whole PGD2 thing...

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      • Buster
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 210

        Originally posted by Conpecia
        but I'll say the best news from this Cet experiment is that I have yet to hear of someone who's been on it over 3 months say that their hair loss got worse.
        A lot of people experienced bad sheds, on ***, and on the German forum. Just read the last few pages of the thread over on ***- one of the German forum members posted on there and says he didn't get any results, and many of the others guys on the German forum had bad sheds and didn't recover. It seems like a gamble.

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        • Kirby_
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 439

          ^ a gamble that you should avoid IMO. The loss might be some temporary TE that reverses eventually, but why take the risk? There's no evidence for this working beyond a few forum-goers making unsupported claims.

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          • Conpecia
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 904

            Originally posted by Kirby_
            ^ a gamble that you should avoid IMO. The loss might be some temporary TE that reverses eventually, but why take the risk? There's no evidence for this working beyond a few forum-goers making unsupported claims.
            It all depends on your NW level. If you're anything under 3.5 I'd not risk it. If you're a high NW and have nothing to lose I'd be more willing. I think as a rule of thumb if people aren't commenting regularly on your hair loss and you're not socially classified as a baldie, stick with the big 3 and see if you can keep what you have without succumbing to the sides.

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            • Buster
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 210

              Originally posted by Conpecia
              It all depends on your NW level. If you're anything under 3.5 I'd not risk it. If you're a high NW and have nothing to lose I'd be more willing. I think as a rule of thumb if people aren't commenting regularly on your hair loss and you're not socially classified as a baldie, stick with the big 3 and see if you can keep what you have without succumbing to the sides.
              Agreed. I went on Fin and had a nasty shed within two months of starting it. I have yet to recover after 10/11 months. I wish I hadn't started it, but it's too late now.It's the same with cetrizine in that you may get results, but you may wish you hadn't tried it on the otherhand. I don't personally want to risk it, but I would if I was a norwood 5 or 6.

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              • goingquick
                Member
                • May 2012
                • 63

                I'm still using it, though I've been very incosistent with applications the last 2 or 3 weeks. I really wish I could get a hold of cetirizine powder, as the crushed up tablets leave a lot of crap on your head, even after going through a filter. I'm also using fin and minox foam so it's pretty much impossible to isolate my results.

                I added the cetirizine to my regime because about 8 years ago I used liquid minox and fin and didn't get good results, so this time around I wanted to add in something that might give me an additional boost. At the very least I think it helps reduce itching, though that could placebo.

                You can see my treatment journal here: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthr...hlight=journal

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                • Dan26
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1270

                  i don't know much about certizine but realized the reactin allergy pills I take contain it :S :S :S

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                  • Chromeo
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 86

                    Originally posted by Dan26
                    i don't know much about certizine but realized the reactin allergy pills I take contain it :S :S :S
                    What's your point?

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                    • Dan26
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1270

                      Originally posted by Chromeo
                      What's your point?
                      No point bro.

                      Certizine aint even on my radar b....

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                      • Conpecia
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 904

                        Something's definitely up with this stuff. Seen a couple photos of guys at the 6 month mark with pretty noticeable regrowth. Apparently combining with a minox regimen is the way to go. Let's not fall asleep on this around here, we may have bailed too early.

                        Cet/Minox could replace Fin/Minox is the hope...

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by Conpecia
                          Seen a couple photos of guys at the 6 month mark with pretty noticeable regrowth.
                          Links? Pics?

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                          • clandestine
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 2002

                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            Links? Pics?
                            Seconded. Claims need proof..

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                            • Campbell22
                              Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 42

                              I jumped on the band wagon with this a few weeks ago and bought my local pharmacy out of the antihistamine but was only using it orally.

                              I know most people are using it topically and I know there probably isn't any reliable evidence yet to decide which route is better, if any.

                              But if the general consensus is that you have to do a quick extration of the pills and then use a vehicle then I will but at the moment I'm either just taking them orally or if Im more honest, lately not at all as Im quite happy with minox/capil/duta.

                              I did even go the MSM Vit C route and have massive stocks of both of them but am thinking it is probably best to take an additive approach as I had great results with fin just couldnt handle the sides and so far so good with Duta just obviously no regrowth as its only just been started.

                              If certirizine does prove successful then that would be great as in my head there is definitely an inflammatory involvement in MPB as well as many other possible factors. the obvious being DHT of course.

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                              • Conpecia
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 904

                                Sorry guys, was up late last night and just wanted to report really quick. Here is the link:

                                http://www.****************/interact...opecia)/page79

                                Casperz has been on for 6 months and is obviously regrowing his crown area. Hasn't lost hair at all since his initial shed in the first month. That's the most important point to me, as minox alone would not be slowing down his loss.

                                Kamikaze has been on for 4 months and looks like he's regrowing a bit but there aren't before pics so take it with a grain of salt.

                                Chromeo is also saying he was on Minox for a while and didn't see anything, now that he's added Cet there are results. Unfortunately he has no before or after pics but I don't think there's any incentive for him to just lie about it; not like these are guys at some snake oil company who can profit off of selling Cetirizine, which is very cheap and widely available. Vehicle is just Cet and water. Really simple. Anyone who's on Minox should consider adding it if the good news keeps coming.

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