Cetirizine

[hellouser]

I'm nw1 and my big 3 is topical fin with spectral dnc 5 proscar tablets crushed a d nizoral 2 percent twice a week this should hold me I don't shed much at all!!

There's a topical finasteride?

[thechamp]

Topical fin

Made it myself alot of people have claimed succes with proscar tablets crushed in to minoxidil!!

[ammin]

Champ. You should really enjoy life and work towards fulfilling your goals.

Stay on your current treatments to maintain your peace of mind. But even to the hair junkie , your hair loss is imperceptible , even on close inspection.

Talk to a counsellor and see if you have Body Dysmorphia. I say this with utmost humility since I think I might...

[doke]

Doke are there photos showing regrowth from this stuff? Don't see why there'd be any hype about it without proof. That's the main thing that has me excited about Cet.

Im not sure there are any pics as you may know neosil 101 was in phase 2 trials and they were completed but alas another company bought neosil and got rid of many of its staff and they have put psi on ice.
I did hear that hair regrew on an nw7 which nothing at this time can do and although no pics which does not really mean much as many i have seen can be doctered and have even been from people with hair transplants so do not take too much from them.
Go to hairlossbudda and you will get some more info on the psi.

[doke]

A guy at immortal forum called bocor used 100mgs of psi and in three weeks grew a lot of hair but where he got it he was unable to get hold of anymore that was some years ago.
So this shit may be the what we want and its available to buy so i may consider it.

[thechamp]

A guy at immortal forum called bocor used 100mgs of psi and in three weeks grew a lot of hair but where he got it he was unable to get hold of anymore that was some years ago.
So this shit may be the what we want and its available to buy so i may consider it.

So is it avadabile now doke?

[doke]

champ its available at the link a few of my posts back at Labpe usa you can buy it at 100mgs,200mg and 400mg which the latter would be 8 months treatment.
The only thing to be careful of it needs to be stored below 20c so the freezer is where the powder should be thats why if i try it i think i will get 100mgs which you only use for 21 days then lay off about a month before restarting.
You only need 5mg once a day for the 21 days but champ wait before buying as at hair loss help some others are trying it and im waiting for there results before i commit to buy i hope it does work.
It is about $130 for 100mgs so its pricey in uk its about £82.

[doke]

well psi or proteasome inhibitor which was the neosil trial which i think will not be available for a few more years,anyway you apply 100mgs every 3 months in cycles.
And 200mgs from LABpe costs $220 make up 50% alcohol such as everclear) 25% distilled water,25% ppg and seperate into viles you want to add 5mgs a day to a 1ml to apply and make up a premade solution into a 4ml vial, this is a hlh users recipe so if you want to do your own thing its all experimental remember.
But as i said this stuff degrades so i think his recipe seems about right and you need to keep the rest of psi in the fridge.
So i think you could start with the 200mgs or some want to order 400 which will go a long way as said you lay off for periods and then restart if it works of course.
I will try to link you to the labpe site http://labpe.com/psi-200mg-p-339.html

link champ and others be careful as im not saying it will work and im waiting for hairlosshelp users first.

[doke]

Sorry guys i think you would use for 21 days and then lay off a month so every other month.
I said in the link post every 3 months.

[Hair Bear]

This strangely reminds me of the time someone claimed that using a fresh leaf of aloe vera produced similar results or the time someone used anti fungal cream on their head...
I know I am coming across as critical but one can't help but wonder what crops up next, perhaps a banana peel will be next. (I jest)

In all seriousness though, applaud your good efforts and perseverance. Has anyone tried using a scalp roller in conjunction with this concoction?

[doke]

This strangely reminds me of the time someone claimed that using a fresh leaf of aloe vera produced similar results or the time someone used anti fungal cream on their head...
I know I am coming across as critical but one can't help but wonder what crops up next, perhaps a banana peel will be next. (I jest)

In all seriousness though, applaud your good efforts and perseverance. Has anyone tried using a scalp roller in conjunction with this concoction?

are you talking about certrizine or psi?

[Pate]

The Germans are really close to abandoning this. Nobody can get cosmetically relevant results and some of them are 5 months in I believe. The last page of that thread is full of people giving up. Sucks. But again I would hold on for at least 6 months no matter what, probably longer.

You mentioned you weren't a good candidate for a HT because you would continue to bald past the transplanted zone. Ever considered HST? My last resort is to get a really good surgeon to do a NW1 hairline and then go to Dr. Gho for touch ups on any other problem areas further back as needed. Looks like Gho really can regrow donor hair. How's your donor area? Mine is pretty good, I would actually prefer to have less hair in that region as it's way too thick. Don't give up hope on HTs man, options are there and getting better.

What about the guy who grew those terminal hairs at his temples? Did it just stop growing? If I got his results I would keep going to 12 months for sure. You just don't know how the hair will behave long-term.

If I see absolutely no results by 3 months I'll probably stop. But like you said if I see any results I'll keep going to at least six months, probably 12.

Re HTs, my donor zone is actually really good. I have very thick hair and I guess average to above average density. I'm also a high NW6 so I have a larger area than normal. Like you said I wouldn't mind it getting thinned out a bit. In fact when I used to need haircuts (I buzz now), they used to use those thinning shears on me to thin my hair out.

The problem is just that every time I look at HT photos of NW6, they never look good. Has the HT community accepted that Goh can regrow donor? I haven't really been following it because I'm sceptical and seems to me if it doesn't work you run the risk of very high transection rate. Saw a guy the other day with a large nasty strip scar but only about 10% graft survival at a guess. He shaved his head but it looked pretty bad. I'd rather be bald.

So that's what's holding me back. If Goh or Histogen could regrow my thinning areas I would not hesitate to get 2500 FUE to my temples, but right now I'm just waiting to see what happens.

[doke]

Remember this is only one or two people at the most on cert so its no big deal if it was many would have done this years ago and even pharma companies would have trial it for male pattern loss, i now think it could even cause hair loss as i tried it and my whole scalp became thin and dry and sore so i stopped its now returning to normal.
Im with the neosil 101 thats the thing im going on next as its going to be many years if ever before it starts phase three trials.

[doke]

I might add i did first mix as per instructions with 33 10mg tabs but the ppg made it very greasy so i decided to add a bit more alcohol and another 40mgs of tabs which would be total 73mgs im wondering if to restart again but go back to the 33tabs but just reduce ppg and alcohol with more distilled water instead.
Or maybe mix in some aloe gel which may help with dryness.?

[Conpecia]

Doke why not straight up water and Cet? That's what Casperz started with.

I got my minox and Cet this weekend, still a little hesitant to pull the trigger. Always the small part of me that questions whether I'll recover from the initial shed. I guess I can start with slick bald areas and move back if I see improvement. Also worried about minox sides. Gave me baggy eyes and looked like it was aging me when I was doing the 5% every day. Hopefully 2% won't be so bad...