Cetirizine

[doke]

There is guys its psi and go to hairloss help theres a lot about it on the foru m i have commented there.
It is still being trialed by neosil but i think a company is selling the tablets but it is expensive you have to apply it topicaly and as its a protein you have to be carefull when mixing, ienly gently shake mix.
I have asked kane at kouting china of ru fame but he said that they tried it but as its a protein it degraded very quickly in days so they dropped it and are working on a sim product but not sure when it will be available.
There is a link at hlh forum to the company where you can buy psi and as its applied i think in a 14 day cycle with a gap then begin again this stuff if its the real deal and does not degrade as kane has said should regrow even bald scalps.

[doke]

well psi or proteasome inhibitor which was the neosil trial which i think will not be available for a few more years,anyway you apply 100mgs every 3 months in cycles.
And 200mgs from LABpe costs $220 make up 50% alcohol such as everclear) 25% distilled water,25% ppg and seperate into viles you want to add 5mgs a day to a 1ml to apply and make up a premade solution into a 4ml vial, this is a hlh users recipe so if you want to do your own thing its all experimental remember.
But as i said this stuff degrades so i think his recipe seems about right and you need to keep the rest of psi in the fridge.
So i think you could start with the 200mgs or some want to order 400 which will go a long way as said you lay off for periods and then restart if it works of course.
I will try to link you to the labpe site http://labpe.com/psi-200mg-p-339.html

[doke]

Apparently champ i think this stuff maybe the stuff as its so powerful it only needs to be used once a day for 21 days then a lay off and watch new hair sprout as said it is applied in two 14 day of 5mgs and then lay off for about a month then back to the resheme.
Im not sure if we will see the neosil 101 product as its been taken over by a company peplin the third takeover which has messed thinks up.

[thechamp]

Doke

Doke history repeats itself I remember neosh 101 7 years ago I was waiting for it and still waiting a d it's 2012!

[doke]

hi champ its because peplin bought out neosil and put the phase 3 hair loss peptide on ice and it does not look like we will have it the same as the ru.

[doke]

neosil vehicle ppg 48.3mls
ethanol alcohol 38mls
deionized water 20mls
= 100mls shake well then add 5mg per ml to mix so that you apply 5mg a day over 21 days 0.5% or you could mix 100grams to the whole 100mls not sure that it would mix that well as i have not tried it.
Also more info at hairlossbudda on many hair loss products and psi.

[Pate]

But were they also using minox prior to starting with the cetirizine? If not, they could just be having good luck with the minox. It's not proper science if you're changing more than one variable.

They were on minox for 12 months before starting cet.

That's long enough for any chances that are exclusively due to minox to show themselves.

Also, they grew terminal hair on a slick bald hairline. I very much doubt minox has done that to anybody - ever.

[doke]

If certrizine does regrow hair as well as the neosil 101 it would be good as we know psi is pricey and another gamble.

[Conpecia]

Doke are there photos showing regrowth from this stuff? Don't see why there'd be any hype about it without proof. That's the main thing that has me excited about Cet.

[rdawg]

They were on minox for 12 months before starting cet.

That's long enough for any chances that are exclusively due to minox to show themselves.

Also, they grew terminal hair on a slick bald hairline. I very much doubt minox has done that to anybody - ever.

I'd probably recomend using Minoxidil at the same time anyways, it is a growth stimulator and helps the blood flow etc. it potentially enhances the affects of CET.

I also would'nt expect a full review of this stuff for another couple months, you may not get the full benefits at month 3-4. Who is the farthest along with Cet?

[maxhair]

I've been on fin and minox for one year, and I've been using CET for 2 months, on one side of my head only. Standard strength as first tried in the German forum. So far...

... so far it has made absolutely no difference. No shed, no new hair, occassional itch. Should I up the strength of the next batch to 10%?

[Pate]

I'd probably recomend using Minoxidil at the same time anyways, it is a growth stimulator and helps the blood flow etc. it potentially enhances the affects of CET.

I also would'nt expect a full review of this stuff for another couple months, you may not get the full benefits at month 3-4. Who is the farthest along with Cet?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the absolute earliest anyone started cet was about May, so 6 months, and most started about July, so 4 months. Definitely not long enough to know for sure what the long term results will be.

As for me, I'm two weeks today!

Has anybody seen any updates on the other forums?

[thechamp]

Hairlosbuddah

Hairloss Buddha I'm glad I didn't take there advice on topical fin they say its a waste of time, 3 weeks in 5 proscar pills in my spectral dnc and I can a sure you my hair is getting thicker

[Conpecia]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the absolute earliest anyone started cet was about May, so 6 months, and most started about July, so 4 months. Definitely not long enough to know for sure what the long term results will be.

As for me, I'm two weeks today!

Has anybody seen any updates on the other forums?

The Germans are really close to abandoning this. Nobody can get cosmetically relevant results and some of them are 5 months in I believe. The last page of that thread is full of people giving up. Sucks. But again I would hold on for at least 6 months no matter what, probably longer.

You mentioned you weren't a good candidate for a HT because you would continue to bald past the transplanted zone. Ever considered HST? My last resort is to get a really good surgeon to do a NW1 hairline and then go to Dr. Gho for touch ups on any other problem areas further back as needed. Looks like Gho really can regrow donor hair. How's your donor area? Mine is pretty good, I would actually prefer to have less hair in that region as it's way too thick. Don't give up hope on HTs man, options are there and getting better.

[thechamp]

I'm nw1

I'm nw1 and my big 3 is topical fin with spectral dnc 5 proscar tablets crushed a d nizoral 2 percent twice a week this should hold me I don't shed much at all!!