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  • Conpecia
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 904

    Originally posted by Pate
    One thing you have to keep in mind is that regrowth could be expected to slow because these hairs are all sprouting together. A thicker hair takes longer to cycle so you'd expect that after an initial burst of growth, they would basically sit for a while until the next cycle of resting then growing again.

    So the next couple of months will be critical. There may be another shed followed by even stronger growth. Or it may just stay as is.

    Regardless, this is really the first medication ever to have apparently grown terminal hair on slick bald scalp. We don't know what to expect. It may take more than 12 months to get a true, full length terminal hair, because it may take many cycles to repair fully.

    Or it may be a dead end... The joys of being at the cutting edge of science!
    Yeah. Bottom line is this is growing hair on slick bald heads. Period. That makes it a huge step in the right direction. People will simply manipulate the variables until an optimal solution is arrived at and we'll be on our way to more important ventures.

    Anyways, how has the past week been on Cet? Shedding? Anything?

    I purchased all the stuff and am waiting for it to arrive this week. Can't afford to wait until January; hairline is going north quick. I'm pretty much going all in on the big 3 + Cet for one year and then calling it quits and saving up for a HT if my loss continues. Youth is too short to **** around with these experiments forever. I keep thinking 'at least I'll have a full head of hair in my 40s once Histogen or Replicel comes out.' **** that. These treatments have one year to stop my hairloss or it's HT time.

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    • Pate
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 417

      Originally posted by Conpecia
      Yeah. Bottom line is this is growing hair on slick bald heads. Period. That makes it a huge step in the right direction. People will simply manipulate the variables until an optimal solution is arrived at and we'll be on our way to more important ventures.

      Anyways, how has the past week been on Cet? Shedding? Anything?

      I purchased all the stuff and am waiting for it to arrive this week. Can't afford to wait until January; hairline is going north quick. I'm pretty much going all in on the big 3 + Cet for one year and then calling it quits and saving up for a HT if my loss continues. Youth is too short to **** around with these experiments forever. I keep thinking 'at least I'll have a full head of hair in my 40s once Histogen or Replicel comes out.' **** that. These treatments have one year to stop my hairloss or it's HT time.
      It's going fine so far. Day 12 today. It's hard to know about shedding, I do seem to be shedding more than usual but I'm well aware that it may be just a case of paying more attention to it. Couple of slightly pigmented hairs just breaking the skin near the hairline I don't remember before either, too fine to even resolve on my camera.

      Maybe I'm seeing the first sign of results, maybe it's just a prime example of the power of suggestion!

      I hear you about the 'just have to hold on 10 more years...' feelings. It's so crap. And no guarantee it'll even happen. I have enough donor to fix my current thinning NW6 but I'm only 31 and I don't trust fin to keep working, so HTs are off the table for me. My genetic destiny is a slick bald NW6 and I'd rather be that than have a HT that doesn't have enough coverage.

      So if PGD2 inhibitors don't work then it's Histogen/Replicel or nothing I'm afraid.

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      • Kirby_
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 439

        It gets me down to see how many are running under the assumption that they'll be no pharmacy level treatments available in the near future.

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        • clandestine
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2002

          Originally posted by Kirby_
          It gets me down to see how many are running under the assumption that they'll be no pharmacy level treatments available in the near future.
          Kirby mate; you've been down lately. Chin up! I realize it sucks propecia didn't work out for you, but it doesn't for many other men too. We just have to play our cards, and try our best. That's all anyone can ask of us. And you tried, absolutely. You made a decision, acting out of your best interests. Don't fret because of it, move forward from here!

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          • goingquick
            Member
            • May 2012
            • 63

            Couldn't find bottles with droppers anywhere so I ended up ordering them on Amazon. Damn things won't be here till the 30th.

            Originally posted by Kirby_
            It gets me down to see how many are running under the assumption that they'll be no pharmacy level treatments available in the near future.
            Histogen might not be that far away. Who knows what the ****s up with Aderans and Replicel.

            A pdg2 treatment, if they prove to even be effective, won't officially be released for a long time so if you wanna give that a shot I'd suggest doing like others in this thread and just making your own in the meantime.

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            • goingquick
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 63

              Is it not possible to edit your own posts on this forum? I would have just added this to my last post. Anyway, I'll be keeping a log of my Cet usage in this thread.

              I picked up an eye dropper and distilled water at Walmart tonight, and made a small solution of topical Cet (20 ml distilled water, 20 Cet tabs). The eye droppers have no marks for measurements, though I'm assuming they draw what is fairly close to 1ml.

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              • caliboy
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 2

                anyone getting good results without minox? Ive been doing it for a week without minox, will keep you guys posted, if i get any results from it.

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                • doke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1464

                  In the germans use did they use cet alone or with minoxidil.

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                  • Conpecia
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 904

                    Originally posted by doke
                    In the germans use did they use cet alone or with minoxidil.
                    Hey Doke, think z German who had the most regrowth was using minox too. That's what I'm gonna try first. Had sides with 5% minox gonna try 2% on hairline only. Will update.

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                    • goingquick
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 63

                      Originally posted by Conpecia
                      Hey Doke, think z German who had the most regrowth was using minox too. That's what I'm gonna try first. Had sides with 5% minox gonna try 2% on hairline only. Will update.
                      Do you recall if most of the German forum members were using Cet once or twice a day?

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                      • thechamp
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1763

                        Try a stronger blocker

                        Why doesn't some one try a stronger blocker than cet

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                        • bananana
                          Inactive
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 524

                          Originally posted by thechamp
                          Why doesn't some one try a stronger blocker than cet
                          my thoughts exactly. ps, has someone explored - what are stronger blockers?

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                          • Pate
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 417

                            Originally posted by Kirby_
                            It gets me down to see how many are running under the assumption that they'll be no pharmacy level treatments available in the near future.
                            Oh I don't run under that assumption at all. I think bimatoprost is as near to a sure thing as we have. They've now proven it works on scalp follicles as well as eyelash so all it needs to do is offer enough advantage over minox and it will reach market.

                            CB is a better than 50-50 chance too IMO. Its main threat is Cosmo getting taken over by someone who is focused on their other products.

                            Those two will replace minox & fin in the Big 3. But that will mostly be for maintaining. We need either stem cells or some miracle with PGD2 to regrow a decent amount of hair.

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                            • mjolnir
                              Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 67

                              Originally posted by Conpecia
                              Hey Doke, think z German who had the most regrowth was using minox too. That's what I'm gonna try first. Had sides with 5% minox gonna try 2% on hairline only. Will update.
                              But were they also using minox prior to starting with the cetirizine? If not, they could just be having good luck with the minox. It's not proper science if you're changing more than one variable.

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                              • thechamp
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1763

                                Well stronger

                                We need a stronger pgd2 topical aspirin or clarintine?

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