Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[clandestine]

Stop wasting your time.. If you can't tolerate fin, get on sitosterol based topicals, Keratene, RU or something else proven.

[sizzlinghairs]

Bennzro, you are on trx2 as well?

[Jcm800]

Bennzro, you are on trx2 as well?

He prob is, hence he's getting nowhere fast.

[Space]

Gutted

This is probably a stupid question, but you don't think there's any harm in combining this regimen with EMU-oil on your scalp right?

[Cob984]

I have run out of trx2, been on it 6 months with i believe no decent results still im hesitant to get off,
so one final time - from anyone except ulanude? is this worth it?
its bloody expensive and im reluctant to reorder

[Jcm800]

Nearly twelve months for me, highly doubtful I'll reorder any. I don't see anyone other then ulanude highly praising it. It's not encouraging and its bloody expensive.

[sizzlinghairs]

I've been on trx2 close to
2 years. Msm/vit c 6-9-12 grams (varies when I remember), since around 9/12. Since being on trx2 I've essentially maintained my hair and thickened somewhat but with same back an forth phases on my hairline (still not 100% sure if its **minorly** recceeding or holding or maybe strengthening lol).

I've tried a bunch of other stuff in the past and surprisingly trx2 is the only
Thing that has been able to
Maintain for this length of time and especially without side effects (which is HuGE for hairloss meds). Maybe it's my natural
Slow progression but like I've said I've had plenty of negative past experiences.

I have also been using hydrocortisone and, very occasionally, miconazole nitrate on the hairline. I believe the hydrocortisone has been a valuable addition

[Jcm800]

Thing is - trx2 has been on the market for what? Two years or so? And going by their 'customer testimonials' by now, all us long termers should be seeing positive results. I'm not, and really, i don't think any one else is either. Those that 'think' they're having a little benefit, cant even be sure its attributed to trx. The more time passes, the more i believe we're being taken for mugs.

[Ted]

I have taken 7g MSM per day for 3 years and my hair looks pretty much the same now as when I started it. Two years ago I stopped finasteride after using it for two years. My hair loss didn't increase after the cease of fin and I thought this was due to trx2 that I started a few months earlier.

The last year on fin I got problem with my erections and it didn't go away when quitting fin. In fact, the problem is still here to some degree.
I have read that fin decreases your nitric oxide levels so that may explain why it can give you ED but the ED should go away when you stop fin.

A few weeks ago I found this studie:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19336900

It says that:
"MSM significantly inhibited the release of nitric oxide and prostaglandin E(2) by alleviating the expression of inducible nitric oxide synthase and cyclooxygenase-2 in LPS-stimulated RAW264.7 cells."

So I have now taken a break from MSM for about two weeks and I think my erections are getting stronger. Anyone else noticed something similar with MSM?

Nitric oxide can effect more than just erections.

Edit. I also think that I'm loosing more hair now (can be attributed to other things). I'm a nw 2,5

[clandestine]

You've stopped taking MSM and your erections are now stronger?

Placebo.

[Ted]

You've stopped taking MSM and your erections are now stronger?

Placebo.

Maybe but the study says that MSM decreases nitric oxide which is an important substance for erections. Viagra, for example, works through increasing nitric oxides effects

[clandestine]

How long we're you on fin when you started noticing erectile issues?

[Ted]

How long we're you on fin when you started noticing erectile issues?

I'm not sure. When I first started fin I got erectile issues that may be attributed to placebo. They went away after a while and then returned at the end of my fin usage.

[sizzlinghairs]

Hmm, it's possible that study might be saying msm lowers nitric oxide in relation to the inflammatory process. If msm lowers nitric oxide regardless than I think a number of us would be limp dicks

[Ted]

Hmm, it's possible that study might be saying msm lowers nitric oxide in relation to the inflammatory process. If msm lowers nitric oxide regardless than I think a number of us would be limp dicks

Yea maybe you're right. I will stay of MSM for a month and if my erections aren't back to pre fin I will start with MSM again.