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  • Cob984
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 526

    anyone willing to ship to me some OptiMSM DRS Best? the ones i have access to are either overpriced as hell or horrible quality. much appreciated, need shipping to india

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    • Cob984
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 526

      btw has anyone else been noticing weight gain especially around the stomach area from msm? i feel really bloated even when im hungry which is strange and just thought im dreaming it but there are other reports on the net too,
      i really hope i dont have to drop this, maybe i should tone this down to 6mg and then see

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      • bananana
        Inactive
        • Feb 2012
        • 524

        Originally posted by Cob984
        btw has anyone else been noticing weight gain especially around the stomach area from msm? i feel really bloated even when im hungry which is strange and just thought im dreaming it but there are other reports on the net too,
        i really hope i dont have to drop this, maybe i should tone this down to 6mg and then see
        Well, I've got fat in the last 2,3 months. I wouldnt call it bloated - just fat.

        But I suppose its got to do with eating out every day (2am mcd snacks) and such. Anyways, I've started doing excercise so I hope it will go to normal soon.
        I'm around 188 cm and 100 kg.

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        • Jcm800
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2614

          Wouldn't say I've gained any noticeable weight and I'd expect to as I've quit smoking.

          Gutted, all the vit c tabs in my local Holland and Barrett contain rosehips, no idea if that's likely to interfere with this combo, have you?! Where do you get yours?

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          • Jcm800
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2614

            Double post sorry, please delete.

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            • MrBlonde
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 261

              Originally posted by Jcm800
              Wouldn't say I've gained any noticeable weight and I'd expect to as I've quit smoking.

              Gutted, all the vit c tabs in my local Holland and Barrett contain rosehips, no idea if that's likely to interfere with this combo, have you?! Where do you get yours?
              Tesco's sell 1000mg Vit C tablets.

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                Originally posted by MrBlonde
                Tesco's sell 1000mg Vit C tablets.
                Cheers ill have a look

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1776

                  2 and a half week update

                  Nails are growing quickly, and hair feels softer.

                  Aside from this - nothing else to report.

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1776

                    Originally posted by gutted
                    2 weeks is not long enough. give it a few months. Although early invisible signs (decreased itches/oil) are noticeable in a matter of weeks, if you have previously been aware of any.
                    My scalp is never itchy anyway - oil - hard to tell.

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                    • Cob984
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 526

                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      Nails are growing quickly, and hair feels softer.

                      Aside from this - nothing else to report.
                      very similar for me, another few days and i shall be a full 8 weeks in, i am seeing no improvement in terms of mpb, i continue to regress and thin, if i dont see atleast stabilization in a week or so im back on the dht bandwagon,
                      i will still use this treatment but in addition to blocking dht

                      screw sides, id rather be fat and have a lower libido then lose my hair

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1776

                        Originally posted by Cob984
                        very similar for me, another few days and i shall be a full 8 weeks in, i am seeing no improvement in terms of mpb, i continue to regress and thin, if i dont see atleast stabilization in a week or so im back on the dht bandwagon,
                        i will still use this treatment but in addition to blocking dht

                        screw sides, id rather be fat and have a lower libido then lose my hair
                        When did you start to thin?

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                        • Cob984
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 526

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          When did you start to thin?
                          september 2011 noticed first signs of mpb, started taking sp in nov, absolutely in control and then some till about april, sp starts losing its affect then but the deterioration is slow, still an ok set of hair,

                          since dropping sp 6 weeks ago in absolute freefall, can now only wear the combover as a hairstyle

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                          • yeahyeahyeah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1776

                            Originally posted by Cob984
                            september 2011 noticed first signs of mpb, started taking sp in nov, absolutely in control and then some till about april, sp starts losing its affect then but the deterioration is slow, still an ok set of hair,

                            since dropping sp 6 weeks ago in absolute freefall, can now only wear the combover as a hairstyle
                            Have a feeling that dropping the SP caused it.

                            Afterall it does change DHT levels in the blood. Probably has been an upregulation of it after dropping it.

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                            • Cob984
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 526

                              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                              Have a feeling that dropping the SP caused it.

                              Afterall it does change DHT levels in the blood. Probably has been an upregulation of it after dropping it.
                              yea i agree, but you can see why im anxious, i mean will i really ever recover what im losing now and wait 6 months? by then i would have lost loads and maybe on a path of no return,

                              anyway if i see stabilization ill refrain from tinkering but im not seeing any,
                              When i do get back on dht blocking i plan to use the keratene product range, no more sp for me,
                              start with topical shampoo+serum and if that doesnt work then onto the capsules

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                              • yeahyeahyeah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1776

                                Originally posted by Cob984
                                yea i agree, but you can see why im anxious, i mean will i really ever recover what im losing now and wait 6 months? by then i would have lost loads and maybe on a path of no return,

                                anyway if i see stabilization ill refrain from tinkering but im not seeing any,
                                When i do get back on dht blocking i plan to use the keratene product range, no more sp for me,
                                start with topical shampoo+serum and if that doesnt work then onto the capsules
                                You have to remember Gutted's MSM and Vit C is not clinically proven; personally I am expecting health benefits more then anything.

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