Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[yeahyeahyeah]

It must work - Cob hasnt been on here ranting and raving for a couple of weeks haha

Not convinced, will wait 6 months.

Also COB post before - after pics.

Half the reason why guys on here end up feeling hard done, is because they end up trying unproven products which dont even have any before-afters.

BTW with gutteds combo, there has definently been no regrowth, i know that for sure.

[Jcm800]

I'll roll another month, taking me to six, by then id hope to really start seeing something, but how longs a piece of string? At six people will say roll onto 12 months, by then i'll be a year behind, ah fck its a shitty hand we've all been dealt in the genetics lottery..

[Cob984]

Dude you have slow as hell mpb if at all you have any so you wait however long you want lol,

I am not posting any pics cause its too early but my hair doesnt look as lifeless as it did a couple of months back, I think its fair enough to wait in your case, i am just going hyperactive here cause I have aggressive mpb and will attempt everything under the sun thats worth it, The reason I believe the keratene works is I used to feel mild brain fog on using the topicals. a much milder version of what i felt when i experimented with fin for a week, therefore I believe it is a strong and useful topical.

JCM dont wait mate, i dont care what you use but start using something else, some sort of dht blocking, you need it, see whichever suits you best,

I know I am still far behind in the mpb war because I believe is Fin is the only real prevention but im doing the best i can with my androgen sensitive body, really sucks to have shit hair genetics and then a body that rejects the best available medication

Btw, i think its a good idea to experiment with the Keratene pills as well, they are strong as hell and almost as strong as fin, i wasnt completely at ease on them so i am delaying their use

[Jcm800]

Im contempalting saw complex, but whats the point,it only works for a short time, if at all? Interested in those Keratene capsules tho, am watching that thread closely.

[MrBlonde]

No sizzling, nothing out of the ordinary happening.

Anyone got any updates, good or bad? Nothing but doom my way still..

I posted mine a couple of weeks ago as did another member and we are starting to see slightly positive signs.

Don't listen to Cob anyone. He never even tried this without a DHT blocker and is flaming because his hair is getting worse and taking it out on Gutted and this thread. He is even taking SP again which he knows and even states doesn't work for him in the long term. How much sense does that make? None.


I am not saying this program works or is a success yet as its still too early to tell, it will be twelve months before we know but I believe I am seeing a reduction in shed right now which is correct with Gutted's timeline. I will keep you posted on any regrowth.

[Cob984]

LOOOOL gutteds timeline, delusional people here,
Lets look over your slightly positive signs ? Less shedding after months of your hair taking a pounding? realize this is because your hair loss is only so quick and will only shed so much? Keep hoping to recover using msm bro, your hair is going down

You think I wouldnt be delighted if this combo worked? i would, I gave it full 3 months and only used topical dht blockers occasionally and guess what, my hair was in freefall,

Now that I have changed my regimen, my hair loss has stabilized, my hair looks in better shape visually, i have not won the mpb battle, im still losing but losing slower than this rubbish regimen...So hang on to stupid hope my friend, ill just wait for 3-6 months when you come back here and whine that this combo has done nothing or maybe you will say well if i hadnt taken it i would have had a tennis size bald patch instead of a nickel sized one LOOOL

[Space]

You think I wouldnt be delighted if this combo worked? i would, I gave it full 3 months and only used topical dht blockers occasionally and guess what, my hair was in freefall,

You started this combo straight after dropping SP, that's the reason your hair was in freefall, to attribute it this combo is just plain dishonest.

It's pretty common (from what I've read) that people who use SP see improvement in a couple of months and then suddenly it losses its effect and you loose what you've gained.

This is probably the case for you as well.

[Cob984]

I had actually minimized my sp to dose to 3-4 / week before i got on this combo, i doubt that was what was holding my hair together,

Look guys if its working for you then great but in a bunch of you guys cases who claim this combo is starting to show results its like oh i shed like a rabbit for 3 months, now atleast im not shedding as much so this combo is working ? really man? if you dont do anything you will have the same damn result, shedding is in cycles,
This is not results my friends, recently i was on oral dht blockers (propecia and keratene) for 10 days and in that short frame the difference to my androgen sensitive hair was awesome but the sides sucked just as much, Now that is a real treatment, Just because it doesnt suit me doesnt mean i go around saying well fin is not worth it anyway

Get real guys, the people who will actually have success on this, and by success i mean maintaining are those who dont have mpb or those that have outrageously slow mpb like yeah yeah yeah, do what you want guys its your hair,

But this is my word of advice to those guys with diagnosed and aggressive mpb, dont dedicate months to this combo, its not worth it in the least

[new bubble]

I posted mine a couple of weeks ago as did another member and we are starting to see slightly positive signs.

Don't listen to Cob anyone. He never even tried this without a DHT blocker and is flaming because his hair is getting worse and taking it out on Gutted and this thread. He is even taking SP again which he knows and even states doesn't work for him in the long term. How much sense does that make? None.


I am not saying this program works or is a success yet as its still too early to tell, it will be twelve months before we know but I believe I am seeing a reduction in shed right now which is correct with Gutted's timeline. I will keep you posted on any regrowth.

I've posted previousley about this combo of ONLY vitc/msm worked for me as far as less oily scalp, less itch, better scalp condition and quality of hair AND finally big reduction of hair falling out. I don't expect regrowth of lost hair as I don't take TRX2 and i haven't had any, but for me this has worked great in the above mentioned and am pleased. So from at least i liked to thank Gutted, and i still continue to use it 5 months on

[b0urna]

I had actually minimized my sp to dose to 3-4 / week before i got on this combo, i doubt that was what was holding my hair together,

Look guys if its working for you then great but in a bunch of you guys cases who claim this combo is starting to show results its like oh i shed like a rabbit for 3 months, now atleast im not shedding as much so this combo is working ? really man? if you dont do anything you will have the same damn result, shedding is in cycles,
This is not results my friends, recently i was on oral dht blockers (propecia and keratene) for 10 days and in that short frame the difference to my androgen sensitive hair was awesome but the sides sucked just as much, Now that is a real treatment, Just because it doesnt suit me doesnt mean i go around saying well fin is not worth it anyway

Get real guys, the people who will actually have success on this, and by success i mean maintaining are those who dont have mpb or those that have outrageously slow mpb like yeah yeah yeah, do what you want guys its your hair,

But this is my word of advice to those guys with diagnosed and aggressive mpb, dont dedicate months to this combo, its not worth it in the least

I reaaaaallly really hate this kid. Cob you've been frantically switching between SP, devine hair oil, fin, keratine (serum, tablets and shampoo), msm, trx2..anything iv missed? ..probably.

So you think we are delusional because we are giving one product a fair trial when you didn't? Yet you claim results from blocking DHT in 10days! Don't say you did gave this a fair chance because we all know you were taking DHT inhibitors against gutters advice..but yep we all know this because we've been through this whole stupid argument over and over again, yet you still come back to flame.

Dont you wonder why you get in arguments with everyone on these forums? but obviously your opinion is always right regardless of knowledge or experience. Just do everyone a favour and stop clogging up this thread with your pathetic flaming, everyone's bored of it and it's not constructive. In fact...just leave.

Oh and cob...don't reply to this, no-one wants to hear you b1tch anymore.

ahhh..that felt good. Now let's bring this thread back to what it was intended for; not PRP injections, not different products that focus soley on DHT, and not petty arguments.

As for MSM/vitc results, I too am seeing less shedding and the usual symptoms gutted described, though I'm still not at the shed rate of a normal non-balding bloke, but I'm going to wait a month and a half before I post another update, that will take me to 6months. If things keep going well I will keep with this for 12months.

[StayThick]

Bourna: Are you taking TRX2 in conjunction with MSM and Vitc? How much MSM and VitC are you personally taking per day?

I'm going into my 3rd month on this regimen and haven't really noticed much beyond the faster hair growth rate. My corners are still kicking back unfortunately.

I'll stick with this combo for at least 6 months before making my final evaluation.

[b0urna]

Bourna: Are you taking TRX2 in conjunction with MSM and Vitc? How much MSM and VitC are you personally taking per day?

I'm going into my 3rd month on this regimen and haven't really noticed much beyond the faster hair growth rate. My corners are still kicking back unfortunately.

I'll stick with this combo for at least 6 months before making my final evaluation.

I'm not currently taking TRX2, but I plan to order some soon. Either that or making my own higher potency version (see my post from a few days ago). However I'm not back in the UK for another 5weeks so I will have to wait till then. I'm also going to swap out my regular absorbic acid with liposomal vitamin c. Im tempted to buy some DSMO to mix my MSM into for topical use also but this is just food for thought.
iv been taking around 9grams msm/ 1-2 grams vit c (plus plenty of orange juice), and ensuring I'm getting enough water, especially as I'm currently living in Australia where the temperatures have been in the record breaking 45-50c lately. I plan to lower my msm intake to around 4grams daily soon.

[b0urna]

Another reason I started msm is because I had joint pain which would not heal itself naturally, after a month of taking msm my injuries had completely healed themselves

[Cob984]

delusion ftw but ok ill leave here

[gutted]

i think ive also noticed this highly pigmented hair on the back of my head like another user experienced too. The hair on the back "looks" highly pigmented in color, (it may be due to the thickness differences between the top and back.)

i wonder if there are any users taking this who have grey hair. would be interesting to see if this reverses grey hair to original color!