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  • sizzlinghairs
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 310

    Random follow up to a previous comment: Is anyone else experiencing eye pain from MSM??

    Thanks.

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    • Jcm800
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2614

      No eye pain, just pain from seeing my hair loss progressing

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      • yeahyeahyeah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1776

        Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
        Random follow up to a previous comment: Is anyone else experiencing eye pain from MSM??

        Thanks.
        No.

        Starting to believe MSM isn't the problem for some on here.

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        • Jcm800
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2614

          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
          No.

          Starting to believe MSM isn't the problem for some on here.
          MSM isn't a problem, hairloss is

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          • Benzzro
            Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 82

            The only reason I don;t trust gutted is the fact that he thinks this will work for absolutely everyone, when he's literally only tested it on himself and posted no pics. Don't get me wrong, I'm still on the treatment with nothing else cause of the fact that I've accepted hairloss but may as well try something natural to prevent it. Really wish the itch stopped in 3 weeks like OP said but my scalp still itches like crazy and it's been like a month and a half.

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            • StayThick
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 624

              Guys, I am starting to hit a very dark place as it relates to my hairloss. Prior to this regimen I have never had somebody comment on the sides/back of hair being noticeably darker/thicker compared to the top of my head...BUT for the second straight time in 2 weeks a close friend commented on how the sides of my head look abnormally darker/thicker when compared to the rest of my head and further went on to predict that I would be completely bald by 36 (I'm 27). I actually think he was being optimistic at this point. I literally wanted to crawl in a corner and soak..

              Over a month in and the only thing I noticed this combo doing, AGAIN, is just growing my DHT resistant hair a much faster rate, while darkening the hair in the process. I am really starting to doubt this combo having any effect on preventing baldness or regrowing any lost hair period. It works perfect for those NOT going bald IMHO. As I mentioned in prior posts, I will continue this for a year, IF, the sides of my hair don't grow or darken any further...I am starting to look like George Jefferson but still with hair on the top if that makes sense, just not as thick. Depressing. Merry Christmas you all...hope your family members avoid commenting on your hair..I dread tomorrow.

              PRP/ACELL to come..

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              • b0urna
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 43

                Originally posted by 2020
                Glutathione, yes. The products you're listed are probably useless. If raising glutathione is our goal, then why bother with MSM? Just take glutathione directly or take its precursors.

                I will start taking this next year(out of stock until Jan 2013):
                LivOn Labs offers a better way to absorb nutrients with liposomal vitamins. Order our liposomal supplements for the lowest price online.


                If low glutathione is the cause, then that would fix it as one serving provides a lot of it.

                I'm currently taking this as Vitamin C:
                LivOn Labs offers a better way to absorb nutrients with liposomal vitamins. Order our liposomal supplements for the lowest price online.


                it's fat soluble so it lasts in the body 12 hours or more as opposed to whatever Vitamin C pills you're taking which last less than an hour. Also, it has been found that 1,000 mg of this special vitamin C is equivalent to taking 50,000 mg of regular Vitamin C...
                hi 2020, are you still planning on taking these next month? would be interesting to see your results with simply raising glutathione. It would also be good to test whether longer lasting vitamin c is needed for maximum absorption.

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                • bananana
                  Inactive
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 524

                  Originally posted by StayThick
                  Guys, I am starting to hit a very dark place as it relates to my hairloss. Prior to this regimen I have never had somebody comment on the sides/back of hair being noticeably darker/thicker compared to the top of my head...BUT for the second straight time in 2 weeks a close friend commented on how the sides of my head look abnormally darker/thicker when compared to the rest of my head and further went on to predict that I would be completely bald by 36 (I'm 27). I actually think he was being optimistic at this point. I literally wanted to crawl in a corner and soak..

                  Over a month in and the only thing I noticed this combo doing, AGAIN, is just growing my DHT resistant hair a much faster rate, while darkening the hair in the process. I am really starting to doubt this combo having any effect on preventing baldness or regrowing any lost hair period. It works perfect for those NOT going bald IMHO. As I mentioned in prior posts, I will continue this for a year, IF, the sides of my hair don't grow or darken any further...I am starting to look like George Jefferson but still with hair on the top if that makes sense, just not as thick. Depressing. Merry Christmas you all...hope your family members avoid commenting on your hair..I dread tomorrow.

                  PRP/ACELL to come..
                  Start using concealers! ASAP! I'm sorry its going the way it is for you.
                  I really don't know what to say about msm, I've found numerous articles online that describe how good it is for hair (and entire body), I really believe it works because I've seen the results on myself. No oil production means a lot to me, really, that alone is a great reason for taking it. Not to mention less itch, better overall skin condition, nails, joints, cholesterol etc etc...

                  ps, I read one can take 20 grams of msm daily - it's safe as water! But I don't know will upping the dose bring more results... It would be quite expensive.

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                  • Cob984
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 526

                    to those looking at topical treatments while on this program, consider the Keratene range
                    I only use the shampoo and i have dropped revivogen, it has a nice cosmetic affect if nothing else but i think the ingredients are real quality as well, and you have to use a minimal amount so it lasts a long time,
                    every time i go out on weekends i use the shampoo, very helpful stuff

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                    • Jcm800
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2614

                      Thanks Cob might look into that stuff myself now

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                      • clandestine
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2002

                        Also, check out the 'Fin without sides' thread in Hair Loss Treatments. It's regarding Keratene's 5ari pill.

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                        • TheBadger
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 17

                          Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
                          Random follow up to a previous comment: Is anyone else experiencing eye pain from MSM??

                          Thanks.
                          Can you elaborate? 'Eye pain' is pretty vague. A few weeks in I did have some eye discomfort, I wouldn't describe it as 'pain' as such but it was pretty unpleasant. Basically the edge of my right eye would have this weird throbbing feel every so often, then it died down and the other eye developed this feeling like there was a lot of pressure building up in it. It's largely died down though, comes back in relatively minimal form every so often which I can't say doesn't concern me, but there's no way to prove this is the cause without dropping this, seeing what happens then starting it up again if it goes away. Which I don't really want to risk because it'd throw me back a month and a half, especially as like I said it's nowhere near as bad as it was.

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                          • Jcm800
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2614

                            I'm easing myslelf back onto Minox foam now, as well as this combo - the comment's about my crown are too painful, gotta up the ante - fk i've even considered Fin again, not good.

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                            • b0urna
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 43

                              Originally posted by Jcm800
                              I'm easing myslelf back onto Minox foam now, as well as this combo - the comment's about my crown are too painful, gotta up the ante - fk i've even considered Fin again, not good.
                              Hold strong mate, we will know in another 3 months or so if this works. Also, if it does act as a natural fin alternative (see thread title), combining this with min, or another growth stimulator like bim, could mean maintenance of all regrown hair.

                              BTW I'm 3 1/2 months in, and even though I don't think my hair looks any worse than when I started this regime, I'm still shedding...or my hair is still 're-synchronising' (I'm hoping the latter!)
                              I'm also still too scared to have a haircut, think I'm gonna bite the bullet and get it done today :-/

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                              • lucrio
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 109

                                I've been using vit C and MSM now for close to three months and the itching has improved. I'm also using Epsom salts dissolved in my shampoo every now and then as Sparx444 recommended from hair loss talk forums and that is definitely helping with the itch as well.

                                Just curious is anyone still using the trx2 and do we feel that it is an essential part of this regimen. I haven't read this whole thread and would like to know if this regimen is supposed to include the trx2. Thanks guys

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