Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[StayThick]

What do you guys think of this ACELL/PRP injections? I'm diffuse but do not have any bald patches (for now). I noticed this Dr. Greco is located 4 hours from me who performs these injections.. Is it worth $1200 or am I throwing money down the toilet? Anybody hear anything positive from this?

I'm looking to try and do anything at this point besides Propecia or anything that effects my normal hormonal balance. I will also still continue with this MSM/Vitc/Trx2 combo.

[Cob984]

hey ammin, can you tell us more about the injections mate, i also remain very skeptical of this regimen to say the least,

does your hair already look better in such a short time? no scar? and how can you be sure you will not regress for atleast 2 years?

im a diffuse thinner with a patch developing in the crown and hairline going for a toss, if i do this now, does it freeze further loss in diffuse areas?

[ammin]

I went from NW 1.5 with thick hair to NW 5 -6 Diffuse in 5 months. I compared pictures from my graduation ceremony with my current photographs so I know I am not imagining the deterioration.

Other than Acell The most effective treatment I was on was propecia. I have thrown the Kitchen Sink at my MPB- TRX 2, Laser comb, Vivscal, Gutted's combo, Revivogen, Fluridil, Minoxidil, Hairomega 3 in 1.

I returned from a company visit recently having shaved my head a few days earlier . I was waiting for my flight at the airport and thinking to myself - How Comical - You will be bald soon while your father will have a respectable set of hair for a man his age. Picture the family photographs.

I was depressed, more so than I have ever been, despite the fact that I recently secured employment with a firm I had always wanted to work for.

Fast forward to monday, At work I am debating whether or not to try the Acell as a last resort - Looked at the websites of a few board certified physicians and decided to have the procedure done. Called Dr hitzig's office and was informed by the patient co-ordinator that I could schedule an appointment for that very day and the treatment would cost anywhere between $3500-6000. I asked for a narrower estimate and was told with the "Motto Release Form" it would cost me $3500.

I went to the clinic and was treated very professionally by their staff. Prior to my procedure Dr Hitzig and Dr Prasad waxed on their differences with Dr Rassman.

Before the injections I was numbed with an anesthetic. I experienced pain that was a 3-4 on a scale of 10 but wasnt anything a Grown man desperate to avoid a chrome dome could not handle. Subsequently Dr prasad injected me with Acell PRP . The "surgery" was over in 90 minutes and I was told not to Shampoo my Hair for the next 36 hours- instructions I did not follow but you would be well advised to-, not lean over while working on a computer and use cold compresses for the coming few days to avoid swelling.

3 Days later ,I have no swelling and my Hair is markedly thicker! It seems to me if I grew it out It would be like the hair I had a month after graduation. Who knows in a few months time I could regain all the thickness I lost over the last 5 months. I wish I had not shaved my head or I could have served as the most phenomenal case study for Dr Hitzigs clinic , akin to the results achieved by irishpride.

Beware that my follicles were not dead or even dormant but extraordinarily thin. That my research suggests is the rule of Thumb for Hair restoration physicians: If the follicles are thin or dormant they can be rejuvenated

It also makes sense that I am experiencing such drastic results since my deterioration was very fast paced too.

Now moving forward , I plan to visit Dr hitzig occassionally and stay on THe TRX 2 and Revivogen . I might add the laser comb too if Dr Hitzig endorses the addition.

This was truly a Christmas miracle for me. I am extremely relieved but I know I need to temper my optimism....

[ammin]

does your hair already look better in such a short time? no scar? and how can you be sure you will not regress for atleast 2 years?

im a diffuse thinner with a patch developing in the crown and hairline going for a toss, if i do this now, does it freeze further loss in diffuse areas?

I have no scar. Its just a bunch of injections

I am not sure actually, just more confident that my hair loss would cease than I would have been had I been follwing gutted's regimen.

Why? Since my conviction stems from the clinical experience of Board certified Hair restoration physicians and not some anonymous , probably well meant poster, on bald truth talk.

As we speak Dr Greco, Dr Cooley, Dr Hitzig, Robert Niedbalski are compiling their results to present to ISHRS next year.


[/QUOTE]does it freeze further loss in diffuse areas?[/QUOTE]

I think it should

Incidentally, I think gutted is surreptitiously representing Dr Whitfield but also admit this is speculation on my part.

Gutted might believe what he says but IMO he hasn't fully disclosed his affiliations

[StayThick]

Ammin: you stated you received the "motto release" form of injections and that you paid $3500. Are these the same injections Dr. GRECO is performing, as you did state him as one of the few doctors performing these injections? If so, why does Dr. Greco offer them for $800 with travel discount versus the $3500 you shelved over? Something isn't jiving here, but I wouldn't pay $3500 for this treatment.

I spoke with Dr. GRECO via email and will be booking my appointment tomorrow morning. I am not expecting a miracle, but a slight improvement would be worth it for me. Confused on the big price difference though.

I am also fortunate because he is located 4 hours from me.

[ammin]

Is it just Acell or both Acell and PRP? If its both which is what I received, the only difference between Dr Greco and Dr hitzig's procedure might be in protocol which should amount to nothing. Perhaps Dr Hitzig charges a premium for being a pioneer of the modality.
Just bring up the price difference with Dr Greco. Perhaps the two will talk and Dr Hitzig will reduce his prices incase I have to get another set of injections 2 years from now.

[inspects]

Fast forward to monday, At work I am debating whether or not to try the Acell as a last resort - Looked at the websites of a few board certified physicians and decided to have the procedure done. Called Dr hitzig's office and was informed by the patient co-ordinator that I could schedule an appointment for that very day and the treatment would cost anywhere between $3500-6000. I asked for a narrower estimate and was told with the "Motto Release Form" it would cost me $3500.

Hi Ammin,

May I ask where you had the procedure performed, New York?

Certainly sounds interesting.

Have a great Christmas...!

-Dale-

[ammin]

I am not expecting a miracle, but a slight improvement would be worth it for me.

I think thats the right attitude. I just had some peach fuzz remaining after 5 months of follicular devastation. All I hoped for is to retain that peach fuzz and here I am sprouting lush follicles all over.

My MPB was especially severe. I would go to bed and wake up the next morning with my hair noticeably thinner than the night before . Can you imagine getting ready for work after that? Better still going to a trading desk analyzing market color, looking at thousands of charts daily, negotiating with brokers , staring at three bloomberg terminals throughout the day while knowing that you are balding at the rate of knots. It was awful.

I am leaving for Disney Land in a few hours with my girlfirned and thankfully I wont have a chrome dome in my pictures. God bless Acell PRP.

Merry Christmas everyone

[ammin]

Yes I had the procedure done in NY with Dr Hitzig. You can get it done elsewhere if you would like.




I think Acell-PRP is going to take off soon. This treatment is the true "hidden gem". It just lies undiscovered with people abstaining from it due to fear and cost .

[inspects]

Yes I had the procedure done in NY with Dr Hitzig. You can get it done elsewhere if you would like.




I think Acell-PRP is going to take off soon. This treatment is the true "hidden gem". It just lies undiscovered with people abstaining from it due to fear and cost .

Thanks for the info ammin...I too agree, it will take some type of cell altering to cure-repair the MPB we have.

Best of luck to you with your treatment, I really hope it makes a big difference for you and many others.

I will look into this more, certainly could make a significant difference for many people.

[ammin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuYrRebvFHc

Some people stand in the Darkness.....afraid to step into the light )))))

[inspects]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuYrRebvFHc

Some people stand in the Darkness.....afraid to step into the light )))))

I have to agree with you, MSM, Vit C and TRX2 are probably slightly behind the ACell concept.........

[MrBlonde]

IMO This treatment has turned out to be a failure. Gutted can have as many retrospective revisions to his theory but I will not encourage anyone to rely on this combination alone.

I have discovered it is not that difficult to compose long elaborate post espousing new hair loss regimens.

I say this with all due respect to gutted. You should either rely on the opinions of Board certified physicians or on extensive photographic evidence.

Neither does gutted have any evidence nor does he have the credentials.

To conclude, I dont think this thread deserves to be in the cutting edge future treatments section and should have a caveat emptor sign attached to it..

Although I appreciate your input and for bringing Acell/PRP to my attention I do feel you are being overly harsh here. Its too early too tell if this is a failure. Like I mentioned earlier none of us have been on this treatment for 4 months yet. We will only be able to tell after 12 months.

I too have noticed an improvement in facial skin qaulity and though this means nothing for MPB it does give me hope that if its improving the health of my skin in that general area that it might be doing something. The reduction in itch was a big bonus too, my head used to be itchy all day long but now it rarely is unless I go a long time without washing my scalp.

To suggest Gutted is fronting for a doctor imo is out of order.

[b0urna]

I have to agree with you, MSM, Vit C and TRX2 are probably slightly behind the ACell concept.........

Am I the only one wondering why a $3500 injection involving pigs bladder extractions is being compared with what is essentially a natural vitamin combination? have I missed something?

[Jcm800]

Gutteds thread has been hijacked lol. Not every one can afford a $3500 pigs bladder injection either. But damn I do wish time would pass and this regime would prove to save my rapidly dwindling hair follicles.