Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

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  • sizzlinghairs
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 310

    Cob, I really reccomend you do w.e it takes to find the $ to get on trx2. It stopped my hairloss essentially after 4-5 months of taking it

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    • Cob984
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 526

      Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
      Cob, I really reccomend you do w.e it takes to find the $ to get on trx2. It stopped my hairloss essentially after 4-5 months of taking it
      Money is not the problem, ill go in debt for my hair i dont care

      I am 5.5 wks into trx2 and 7.5 into msm/c, I am also munching 4 trx2 instead of the usual 3, when did you see your hair stabilizing on trx2? if iwait 4 months at this rate ill be screwed

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      • sizzlinghairs
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 310

        How long have you been off of Saw P? That will most definitely play a role as your hormones/androgen receptors need to re-stabilize to normal levels.

        I noticed like 3 months a stabilization of hairloss on trx2, but it had many ups and downs after that 3 months where I felt like it wasnt working. I have also been using hydrocortisone and miconazole nitrate on the hairline like everyday-every other day which I believe has contributed somewhat. But my crown stabilized just with trx2.

        What else have you been taking or have dropped?

        I would strongly strongly reccomend using 1% hydrocortisone to control your shedding. It is a very solid anti inflammatory. Another thing is I would also try time-released Vit c if you arent using it. I dont know if it makes a difference, but it would seem like it could.

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        • Cob984
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 526

          Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
          How long have you been off of Saw P? That will most definitely play a role as your hormones/androgen receptors need to re-stabilize to normal levels.

          I noticed like 3 months a stabilization of hairloss on trx2, but it had many ups and downs after that 3 months where I felt like it wasnt working. I have also been using hydrocortisone and miconazole nitrate on the hairline like everyday-every other day which I believe has contributed somewhat. But my crown stabilized just with trx2.

          What else have you been taking or have dropped?

          I would strongly strongly reccomend using 1% hydrocortisone to control your shedding. It is a very solid anti inflammatory. Another thing is I would also try time-released Vit c if you arent using it. I dont know if it makes a difference, but it would seem like it could.
          I dropped oral sp when i started trx2, about 5 weeks, but i still put sp extract/rev on my hair topically, and i just started using the topical ceritizine experiment 1ml a day

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          • sizzlinghairs
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 310

            Not following the cet experiment, but I did hear that having it dissolve properly was an issue for people and that some also had shedding with it.

            Anyways, keep on the trx2 and cet, but I urge you to go pick up some 1% scalpicin or anything with 1% hydro in it and see if it can help control your loss.

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            • Cob984
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 526

              i thought my shedding had reduced but for some reason it came back with a vengeance today, i dont know why,
              im debating whether to discontinue the cet, its only been 10 days though

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1776

                Coming up to 2 weeks, not feeling any shedding like cob is. Actually it is hard to say if this is doing anything at all.

                2 x Vit c = 3000mg
                2 x msm = 3000 mg.

                Hair does feel healthy though

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1776

                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                  Coming up to 2 weeks, not feeling any shedding like cob is. Actually it is hard to say if this is doing anything at all.

                  2 x Vit c = 3000mg
                  2 x msm = 3000 mg.

                  Hair does feel healthy though
                  And to add, the back of my head where the hair normally feels REALLY flat, seem to feel thicker.

                  too early to jump onto conclusions, but I think this is what gutted may be talking about when the hair 'seems' thicker.

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                  • gutted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1397

                    Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
                    @gutted, thanks. How long would you say it took for that to happen? I don't think I've noticed my hair growing longer then normal yet (maybe on my body, not my fingers tho). But having overly long hair on my fingers sounds pretty unnapealing.. You said you noticed this happening everywhere on your body for sure?
                    yes, you should notice increased hair growth within 1 to 3 weeks through out the body, i guess it may depend on how much msm you take too.

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                    • gutted
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1397

                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      And to add, the back of my head where the hair normally feels REALLY flat, seem to feel thicker.

                      too early to jump onto conclusions, but I think this is what gutted may be talking about when the hair 'seems' thicker.
                      2 weeks is not long enough. give it a few months. Although early invisible signs (decreased itches/oil) are noticeable in a matter of weeks, if you have previously been aware of any.

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by baldnotbeautiful
                        A couple questions...as I'm thinking of giving this a go...

                        I currently use rogaine(only on crown despite being a diffuse thinner) and nizoral(2x a week), is it in your opinion that this works against this treatment?
                        Rogaine MAY not, but i dont reccomend using that at all.
                        Nizoral is overrated and yes can have an impact in the visible results.

                        Originally posted by baldnotbeautiful
                        Looking at msm products, the most I can find in a single pill is 1500mg, so I'm guessing you take around 6 of these a day? Did you slowly build up to taking that much?

                        Also, how much Vit C are you taking?

                        Sorry if these are repeat questions, this is a long thread
                        yes initially, i did slowly build up on it and have now pretty much got used to 9grams. I may consider lowering sometime in the future to 6 or 3 grams.

                        I get most of my vit c from juices and fruit so sometimes i take 2 pills x 500mg VitC. Sometimes i supplement with 2 grams when i dont gain through juices and fruit. 4 grams is more than enough.

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                        • sizzlinghairs
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 310

                          Originally posted by gutted
                          2 weeks is not long enough. give it a few months. Although early invisible signs (decreased itches/oil) are noticeable in a matter of weeks, if you have previously been aware of any.
                          I have been on the msm for a month so I think I should be noticing the increased body hair growth, but I dont see any major changes. I am also taking 6 grams msm, sometimes 9. Do you think some people just need a lot higher of a dose, like 12 grams, to notice body hair growth? Or maybe some peoples body hair follicles max out at a certain point and dont have capacity to grow longer? (what Im really hoping for ) I am already kinda hairy and the thought of becoming chewbaca seems like it would really repel the women

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                          • gutted
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1397

                            Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
                            I have been on the msm for a month so I think I should be noticing the increased body hair growth, but I dont see any major changes. I am also taking 6 grams msm, sometimes 9. Do you think some people just need a lot higher of a dose, like 12 grams, to notice body hair growth? Or maybe some peoples body hair follicles max out at a certain point and dont have capacity to grow longer? (what Im really hoping for ) I am already kinda hairy and the thought of becoming chewbaca seems like it would really repel the women
                            You have to give hair time to grow, if its not given time to grow you wont know how longer the hairs would get. The msm only extends the growth of existing hairs, by how much? it probably depends on the individual.
                            When i tried 3 and 6 grams i noticed faster growth throughout within 3 weeks to a month, as time went on they grew longer.
                            Perhaps trying 9 grams for a week may give differring results. Be sure to take the vit C WITH the msm.

                            I would rather be hairy and not bald than not hairy and bald! Theres always hair removal for you to look into.

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                            • Jcm800
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2614

                              Does it make any difference if I take trx with my msm? I doubt it, does anyone else?

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                              • gutted
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1397

                                Originally posted by Jcm800
                                Does it make any difference if I take trx with my msm? I doubt it, does anyone else?
                                dunno, i dont, i take it seprateley.

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