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  • gutted
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1397

    Originally posted by StayThick
    Gutted, thanks for the write up. You single handedly just caused a debit of $300+ dollars on my credit card. I just bought a 3-month supply of TRX-2, bought some MSM, and VitC....quick question: I tried my best to read the entire thread but could you elaborate on ANY sides from this combo you may or may not have experienced?


    I took FIN for 11 months and it was one of the worst drugs I ever put in my body..it's been 6 months off and I'm finally enjoying the normal functioning of my body pre FIN. My hesitation ordering TRX-2 and MSM were sides, but apparently I do not see many topics on this. The last thing I want to do is add this and experience lower libido, gyno, etc. Can you share your experiences in this area?
    I havent noticed any sides from the combo, trx2 or msm, i dont think msm has any sides, it may give you some initital detox sides but that is it, which subside after a few weeks on it. It wont give you no sexual sides, they dont work the combo doesnt work through androgen suppression like androgen inhibitors do.

    Originally posted by StayThick
    I am a NW 1.5/2 at 27 yrs old with noticeable thinning in the hairline/corners area. Im hoping for a slight benefit here before considering a FUE transplant. Could you also explain the purpose of the MSM and its effect on halting MPB? I am new to this supplement and any added info would be great. I want to ensure I'm smart this time around when putting new supplements in my body...in the mean time I will continue to read this thread if my questions were already answered.

    Thanks.
    i really dont know myself why it works, but i can see its working. If you want more insight into how it works, you need to read the first post, this will tell you most of what you need to know. I suspect it works along the "pgd2" pathway.

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    • Cob984
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 526

      Originally posted by StayThick
      Gutted, thanks for the write up. You single handedly just caused a debit of $300+ dollars on my credit card. I just bought a 3-month supply of TRX-2, bought some MSM, and VitC....quick question: I tried my best to read the entire thread but could you elaborate on ANY sides from this combo you may or may not have experienced?

      I took FIN for 11 months and it was one of the worst drugs I ever put in my body..it's been 6 months off and I'm finally enjoying the normal functioning of my body pre FIN. My hesitation ordering TRX-2 and MSM were sides, but apparently I do not see many topics on this. The last thing I want to do is add this and experience lower libido, gyno, etc. Can you share your experiences in this area?

      I am a NW 1.5/2 at 27 yrs old with noticeable thinning in the hairline/corners area. Im hoping for a slight benefit here before considering a FUE transplant. Could you also explain the purpose of the MSM and its effect on halting MPB? I am new to this supplement and any added info would be great. I want to ensure I'm smart this time around when putting new supplements in my body...in the mean time I will continue to read this thread if my questions were already answered.

      Thanks.
      0 sides and no chance of them either...there is 0 harm in trying this except the hole in your pocket, im personally almost 7 weeks in, not seeing any stabilization or improvement yet, lets see at week 12

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        Originally posted by Jcm800
        Gutted, I'm taking 5 msm am and 4 pm, is it worth ramping my intake up to 12 daily now do you reckon? How many are you knocking back?
        im taking 9grams, and i find its more than enough.

        If your not growing hair and nails like lightning speed. then you need to up the dose, you WILL notice this effect all over the body at 9grams.

        If you are already noticing this effect, then there is nothing more to do than wait it out, and let the hairs cycle through.

        you can try 12grams for a few weeks to see how you get on.

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        • gutted
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1397

          Originally posted by Cob984
          0 sides and no chance of them either...there is 0 harm in trying this except the hole in your pocket, im personally almost 7 weeks in, not seeing any stabilization or improvement yet, lets see at week 12
          lol dude your failing to understand, dropping androgen inhibitors WILL have this effect.

          your also still taking the androgen inhibitors, i can assure you im confident this combo will NOT stop what is going on in your body right now hence you WONT be seeing stabilisation/improvement with the combo.

          You need to set your expectations of what you will achieve with this combo if you are taking it with androgen inhibitors.

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          • Cob984
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 526

            you do realize i just started one 120 mg dose of saw palmetto only this week right? and iv only had 3 days now, besides you mentioned that i might not see visible improvement with this combo if i take androgen inhibitors too but i will maintain right? if i begin to see maintenance i will report,

            if i see someone else on this forum has had success exclusively on this combo i will agree

            if the trx2 website itself mentions to continue to use mild dht blockers as well as niz, i think i rather believe them, also 'against all this' one of the posters with success on trx2 used niz all along

            also your theory on not seeing improvement is what? shed rate vs growth rate, well i am not shedding unnaturally anyway so i dont see how this logicall applies to me

            till more people come out and say yes this work w/o any topical or internal suppressors, i will prefer to live in the real world thank you

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            • StayThick
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 624

              Gutted, what other supplements or treatments are you taking in conjunction to this...Minox, shampoos..etc?

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              • Cob984
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 526

                besides i have read through the trx2 thread extensively,
                people with results on trx2

                you - from your posts you were clearly reporting good things on trx2 while you were still on niacin , sp etc etc
                ulanude - only trx2
                against all this - trx2 + niz

                people on your combo

                blonde - nothing after months
                jcm - nothing after months
                ammin - dropped msm and using revivogen as well

                blame me for being skeptical? you want me to wait what? 6 months? 1 year? till i go slick bald and lose my mind? i think not

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                • gutted
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1397

                  Originally posted by Cob984
                  you do realize i just started one 120 mg dose of saw palmetto only this week right? and iv only had 3 days now, besides you mentioned that i might not see visible improvement with this combo if i take androgen inhibitors too but i will maintain right? if i begin to see maintenance i will report,
                  thats not what i said, you will still shed hair, but that hair will likley not go into dormancy.

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                  • gutted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1397

                    Originally posted by StayThick
                    Gutted, what other supplements or treatments are you taking in conjunction to this...Minox, shampoos..etc?
                    nothing else, just tgel salycily acid shampoo, and a conditioner -> http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco...poo_300ml.html

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                    • Cob984
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 526

                      i already told you for the 10000 times , i am not shedding anymore than i have previously,

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by Cob984
                        besides i have read through the trx2 thread extensively,
                        people with results on trx2

                        you - from your posts you were clearly reporting good things on trx2 while you were still on niacin , sp etc etc
                        ulanude - only trx2
                        against all this - trx2 + niz

                        people on your combo

                        blonde - nothing after months
                        jcm - nothing after months
                        ammin - dropped msm and using revivogen as well

                        blame me for being skeptical? you want me to wait what? 6 months? 1 year? till i go slick bald and lose my mind? i think not

                        lol dude, im not telling you wait 1 year!! its up to you what you want to use with it, im just laying down how you will notice these results...

                        if you want to use it with other stuff, you can do, but dont expect these reults to be replicated by you, since there are factors that can affect your judgement if you use it with other stuff. You should read the thread over again.

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                        • Cob984
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 526

                          so how is that the other members got results on trx2 w/o this combo or people on the combo arent seeing the timeline you did?

                          its simple really, everyones different

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                          • gutted
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1397

                            Originally posted by Cob984
                            i already told you for the 10000 times , i am not shedding anymore than i have previously,
                            lol i give up.

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                            • gutted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1397

                              Originally posted by Cob984
                              so how is that the other members got results on trx2 w/o this combo or people on the combo arent seeing the timeline you did?

                              its simple really, everyones different

                              lol ok. keep me up to date on how it goes with the saw palmetto and the combo. make sure you state your on andorgen blockers when you post.

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                              • Jcm800
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 2614

                                Originally posted by gutted
                                im taking 9grams, and i find its more than enough.

                                If your not growing hair and nails like lightning speed. then you need to up the dose, you WILL notice this effect all over the body at 9grams.

                                If you are already noticing this effect, then there is nothing more to do than wait it out, and let the hairs cycle through.

                                you can try 12grams for a few weeks to see how you get on.

                                I'm growing nails at a rapid rate, existing hair too actually. May as well leave as is then

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