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  • Cob984
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 526

    gutted,
    exactly how much worse does the hair get before getting better? my hair is absolute freefall, it looks like the combover of a 65 year old man, i cannot tolerate this and since we had similar responses to saw palmetto was it really this bad before it got better? i know its early days, 4 weeks in but im seeing regression and nothing else

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    • Cob984
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 526

      also, i will be having surgery soon under general anesth, prob last 3-4 hours, this ok for my hair regimen?

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      • BaldinLikeBaldwin
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 223

        Originally posted by Cob984
        also, i will be having surgery soon under general anesth, prob last 3-4 hours, this ok for my hair regimen?
        no you should have surgery without anesthesia..

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        • Cob984
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 526

          i wish, but thats impossible

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            Originally posted by Cob984
            also, i will be having surgery soon under general anesth, prob last 3-4 hours, this ok for my hair regimen?
            It's not like you have a choice.

            And your hair will be fine (I just had a jaw operation)

            Although they tell you to drop multi vitamins before surgery as it may thin out your blood.

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            • Cob984
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 526

              actually i do have a choice, its cosmetic,
              i had my gynecomastia surgery in august and am looking for more cosmetic enhancements,
              fk it if i cant have my hair i can atleast improve what i can improve

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1776

                Originally posted by Cob984
                actually i do have a choice, its cosmetic,
                i had my gynecomastia surgery in august and am looking for more cosmetic enhancements,
                fk it if i cant have my hair i can atleast improve what i can improve
                In that case it shouldn't have an affect.

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1776

                  Ok I have started this regime.

                  I am going to taper myself up to heavier doses.

                  Currently, 2 x 1500 MSM tablets and 2 x 1000 vit c tablets.

                  I normally dont shed much hair, 30 max, so looking for maintainence.

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                  • Ibrium
                    Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 31

                    Can someone explain to me why everyone is blindly trusting gutted? I haven't seen him provide actual evidence or a scientific basis for half of what he's said here, it sounds like speculation to me. He's just one person. His experiences won't apply to everyone.

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      In that case it shouldn't have an affect.
                      Originally posted by Ibrium
                      Can someone explain to me why everyone is blindly trusting gutted? I haven't seen him provide actual evidence or a scientific basis for half of what he's said here, it sounds like speculation to me. He's just one person. His experiences won't apply to everyone.
                      --No sides

                      --Vit c and msm is good for you anyway

                      -- cheap

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                      • clandestine
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2002

                        Originally posted by Cob984
                        gutted,
                        exactly how much worse does the hair get before getting better? my hair is absolute freefall, it looks like the combover of a 65 year old man, i cannot tolerate this and since we had similar responses to saw palmetto was it really this bad before it got better? i know its early days, 4 weeks in but im seeing regression and nothing else
                        Uhg. Fuᴄk combovers, buzz or shave it please.

                        Also, just a heads up, saw palmetto literally gave me gyno. Maybe I'm super prone, but it did.

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                        • Ibrium
                          Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 31

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          --No sides

                          --Vit c and msm is good for you anyway

                          -- cheap
                          Sure, but he's been posting all other kinds of advice and specifics as though he has some kind of medical expertise into exactly how all these things work. Some of the comments on hormone-related issues are just totally baseless.

                          It's almost always too much of a generalisation to say that something is "good for you anyway". Plenty of supplements have toxicity at levels that can easily be reached, so you generally shouldn't take advice on them from random strangers. It's fortunate that vitamin C is impossible to overdose on, and MSM appears to require fairly high levels to be dangerous as well, so at the worst I guess megadosing is just going to waste money.

                          Has there been any mention of sustained release vitamin C? I would expect that to be absorbed far better.

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                          • yeahyeahyeah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1776

                            Originally posted by Ibrium
                            Sure, but he's been posting all other kinds of advice and specifics as though he has some kind of medical expertise into exactly how all these things work. Some of the comments on hormone-related issues are just totally baseless.

                            It's almost always too much of a generalisation to say that something is "good for you anyway". Plenty of supplements have toxicity at levels that can easily be reached, so you generally shouldn't take advice on them from random strangers. It's fortunate that vitamin C is impossible to overdose on, and MSM appears to require fairly high levels to be dangerous as well, so at the worst I guess megadosing is just going to waste money.

                            Has there been any mention of sustained release vitamin C? I would expect that to be absorbed far better.
                            Nope, but I am taking it. Need it anyway, recovering from an op where my jaw bone was broken.

                            How much vit c and msm is bad for you - btw I Thought of this before taking the capsules.

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                            • Cob984
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 526

                              Originally posted by clandestine
                              Uhg. Fuᴄk combovers, buzz or shave it please.

                              Also, just a heads up, saw palmetto literally gave me gyno. Maybe I'm super prone, but it did.
                              it aggravated mine as well, i got surgery in august,
                              but now that it happened, im guessing it wont return if i start taking saw palmetto again, atleast it helps my hair without a doubt so its ok IMO

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                              • Cob984
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 526

                                btw, has everyone else on this thread quit all use of dht blockers and taken gutteds word for it?

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