Is this the cure?

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  • new bubble
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 98

    #16
    Originally posted by johnbath
    The Telegraph have an article on it http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...two-years.html as are a couple of other sources, but i haven't heard of them before

    Good find, thanks

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    • new bubble
      Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 98

      #17
      Originally posted by gutted
      yep i agree...

      patents are expiring left, right and centre.

      merck being hit with lawsuits for propecia left, right and centre too...they need a new drug...it is just a matter of time before these companies offer an easy, effective, solution for the masses...2014 looks like it may be a very good year.
      This was/is the BIG KICK up the ass for all the corps needed, Fear is a wonderful thing, us guys have been living with it for years and now the multinationals have too live with it FEARING everyday someone will bring the CURE out before them!!!!!

      Tables have turned.

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        #18
        Originally posted by new bubble
        This was/is the BIG KICK up the ass for all the corps needed, Fear is a wonderful thing, us guys have been living with it for years and now the multinationals have too live with it FEARING everyday someone will bring the CURE out before them!!!!!

        Tables have turned.
        the only fear these companies have/had were histogen - they probably almost sureley know HM (replicel,aderans) will not be the cure as its not practicle and probably does not produce a cosmetically beneficial outcome hence not much fear within the industry...

        i think with the introduction of some new players, THIS has injected some more fear into them

        i guess only time will tell...

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        • Alf
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 91

          #19
          Originally posted by gutted
          they probably almost sureley know HM (replicel,aderans) will not be the cure as its not practicle and probably does not produce a cosmetically beneficial outcome hence not much fear within the industry...
          Maybe they know it, but we(forum users) don't. We have to waite for the phase 2 results.

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          • gmonasco
            Inactive
            • Apr 2010
            • 865

            #20
            Originally posted by new bubble
            The hairloss corps cannot keep a lid on the cure any longer because economics always win in the end!!
            Nobody has been "keeping the lid on a cure" in the first place.

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            • gutted
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1397

              #21
              Originally posted by Alf
              Maybe they know it, but we(forum users) don't. We have to waite for the phase 2 results.
              yeah your right...but intercytex tried and failed. Im not saying thats a reliable indicator that replicel and aderans will fail though, just highley likley.

              another thing with HM is, that it does not appeal to the mass market as much due to costs for that reason there will always be a better solution in the works that appeals to the masses... we already know baldness is reversible through drugs in slick bald nw7 scalps, its just a matter of identifying the pathways which allow this to happen.

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              • gmonasco
                Inactive
                • Apr 2010
                • 865

                #22
                Originally posted by gutted
                patents are expiring left, right and centre.
                Patents for marketable hair loss treatments aren't "expiring left, right and centre," as very few such patents existed in the first place. The patent on minoxidil expired long ago, and the patent for finasteride expires next year.

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                • UK_
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2691

                  #23
                  Propecia in decline?

                  I was wondering how current hair loss companies would deal with this news about a PGD2 treatment and if Merck would get in on the action because it looks like shit is hitting the fan for Mercks propecia sales:

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                  Meanwhile, the number of plaintiffs who have filed lawsuits against the pharmaceutical giant, alleging "that they have experienced persistent sexual side effects following cessation of treatment with Propecia and/or Proscar [the same drug, finasteride, in a higher dose, to treat enlarged prostate]" has risen significantly.

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                  • gutted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1397

                    #24
                    Originally posted by gmonasco
                    Patents for marketable hair loss treatments aren't "expiring left, right and centre," as very few such patents existed in the first place. The patent on minoxidil expired long ago, and the patent for finasteride expires next year.
                    what i implied there was, what was once very profitable for a company no longer is/will be...

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                    • idw2bb
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 8

                      #25
                      This is not new for today.

                      Here is a link to an article from last month in the NY Times:

                      Researchers have identified a molecule that inhibits hair growth at the follicle, which could lead to new types of treatment for male pattern baldness.


                      "“The receptor is already a target for other diseases,” he said. “The exciting aspect is that we can try to use those drugs now being developed to treat male pattern baldness.” About 10 drugs that take aim at the receptor are going through clinical trials to treat allergic diseases, he said."

                      "The discovery isn’t likely to help men who are already bald. “It would be too much to turn the clock back and reverse very extensive hair loss,” Dr. Tobin said.

                      But should a treatment based on the discovery come to pass, it could be significant for men who are in the early stages of balding. “You could probably slow the hairs from getting so fine and thin in the first place,” he said. “That would be a breakthrough.” "



                      Slow hairs from thinning. No "cure", but it could help.

                      Wonder what companies he is working with? How do you "target" a receptor?

                      Any how, hope it works and hope it helps, hope it is only two years!

                      HOPE being the operative word here!

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                      • new bubble
                        Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 98

                        #26
                        Originally posted by gmonasco
                        Nobody has been "keeping the lid on a cure" in the first place.
                        How do you know?? Corporations have been known to FIX things in the past. Just look at the banks, only now they have such a bad reputation all there crimes are coming out. The Doctor says a ''drug could come to market within two years'' so tell me they would have develop and do the necessary testing FDA approval and bring to market within the two year timeframe, hmmm yeah right

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #27
                          Originally posted by gmonasco
                          Nobody has been "keeping the lid on a cure" in the first place.
                          I will bet any amount of money against this statement.

                          Lobbying is perfectly legal in USA and a ton of cash is thrown around by major corporations to suck every penny out of the public for as long as possible. Example; the electric car vs. major oil companys. Or big pharmaceutical companys vs. a cancer cure. They would raise absolute hell because they KNOW they would go out of business. There are many examples and I wouldnt doubt for a second that Merck with their finasteride garbage wouldnt or isnt lobbying already against a proper cure for hairloss.

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                          • Mojo Risin
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 157

                            #28
                            Lol at you guys buying this BS.
                            Well, at least Norwood 0.5 men will be able to look like Norwood 0 again.

                            Cotsarelis, what a genius. This guy can rack up money like a champ.

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                            • UK_
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2691

                              #29
                              Nobody is hiding the cure for hair loss, research into hair loss has been going on for decades.

                              Examples about bankers and economic hit-men have been used in arguments about corporations trying to hide the cure for cancer.

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                              • UK_
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2691

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mojo Risin
                                Lol at you guys buying this BS.
                                Well, at least Norwood 0.5 men will be able to look like Norwood 0 again.

                                Cotsarelis, what a genius. This guy can rack up money like a champ.
                                Yup, we need something for the higher Norwoods to even think of calling it a cure, I said this that journalists will lie and bend the truth to get more readers, they all work toward targets and are desperate to hit them.

                                I will look forward to Aderans' results next Feb and their talk in October, because in all honesty if they can get 70% and combine with a hair transplant to give you a NW2 - THAT is a cure! As it brings you to a state in which you are no longer worried about hair loss, PGD2 treatment wont bring that, it will only help some lower Norwoods SLOW their hair loss.

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