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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2691

    I can shed some light:

    Nothing has happened and we are still 10 years away.

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    • bananana
      Inactive
      • Feb 2012
      • 524

      Originally posted by UK_
      I can shed some light:

      Nothing has happened and we are still 10 years away.
      Dont be a pessimist. We know nothing yet.

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      • clandestine
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2002

        Originally posted by UK_
        I can shed some light:

        Nothing has happened and we are still 10 years away.
        C'mon, UK_, that attitude isn't going to get us anywhere. Try exuding some optimism! A lot of good things are happening, and very fast. Try to see that.

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        • StayThick
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 624

          Originally posted by clandestine
          C'mon, UK_, that attitude isn't going to get us anywhere. Try exuding some optimism! A lot of good things are happening, and very fast. Try to see that.
          I like to be as optimistic as the next guy...I'm with UK here. Progress might be made, but progress for MPB is moving at a snails pace.

          I don't care about treatments 10 years away. What's happening in the foreseeable future?? I want updates on treatments making serious progress for the now not the maybe 10 years out progress. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of balding NOW!

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2691

            Originally posted by clandestine
            C'mon, UK_, that attitude isn't going to get us anywhere. Try exuding some optimism! A lot of good things are happening, and very fast. Try to see that.
            I honestly cant see it - every damn year it's the same story: we're 5 years away... we're 5 years away... every other field seems to be steaming ahead and throwing out remarkable new treatments while we're still stuck in 1985 (minox & fin).

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            • ccmethinning
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 317

              Originally posted by UK_
              I honestly cant see it - every damn year it's the same story: we're 5 years away... we're 5 years away... every other field seems to be steaming ahead and throwing out remarkable new treatments while we're still stuck in 1985 (minox & fin).
              It seems all the researchers in the hair loss industry are either snake oil salesmen or all the people who weren't smart enough to research an "important" disease.

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              • PatientlyWaiting
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1637

                I think it has more to do with the funding, on why the hair loss field doesn't have a cure or at least some thing better than minoxidil, finasteride, and dutasteride.

                The government will never help fund something like Male Pattern Balndess. That is why it's taking so long, and every 5 years there's another 5-10 years 'til the cure. It's as if they are giving us the run around.

                The best I can do is just take my finasteride/dutasteride pills and put on my Rogaine, and cover myself up with Toppik. Maybe i'll get some thickening and regrowth, enough to move on for a little while.

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                • Desmond84
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 987

                  Hey guys, just a thought:

                  "Tsuji lab created a hair germ and implanted it into the kidney of a mouse (subrenal capsule)...allowed it to mature. Took out the newly formed hair follicles and transplanted it on the back of the mouse using the FUT technique!"

                  Now, that is all good and well...but how are they going to grow the hair germs in a human study? They obviously can't implant it into our kidney cavities! Right?

                  So, that's where something really interesting came to my mind!

                  This is where Dr. Lauster's microchip technique comes in! Each chip contains six identical dynamic micro-bioreactors with three different micro-organoid culture segments (A liver, a brain cortex and a bone marrow micro-organoid segment) providing a feed supply and waste reservoirs.

                  With these chips, they might be able to grow them to full maturity!

                  I personally think Tsuji & Lauster are complementary scientific techniques, BOTH feeding off each other!

                  What do u guys reckon?

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                  • Boldy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 287

                    Originally posted by Desmond84
                    Hey guys, just a thought:


                    I personally think Tsuji & Lauster are complementary scientific techniques, BOTH feeding off each other!

                    What do u guys reckon?

                    Indeed it is.

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                    • young
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 31

                      I don't see how funding would be a problem.

                      Those who bring out the cure will have an absolute tsunami of money coming in.

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                      • Tomb10
                        Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 34

                        so if this is ever gonna be reality, it is possible to place, for example. 60000 grafts. and there's not longer a need to take meds

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                        • Thinning87
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 839

                          Originally posted by Desmond84
                          Hey guys, just a thought:

                          "Tsuji lab created a hair germ and implanted it into the kidney of a mouse (subrenal capsule)...allowed it to mature. Took out the newly formed hair follicles and transplanted it on the back of the mouse using the FUT technique!"

                          Now, that is all good and well...but how are they going to grow the hair germs in a human study? They obviously can't implant it into our kidney cavities! Right?

                          So, that's where something really interesting came to my mind!

                          This is where Dr. Lauster's microchip technique comes in! Each chip contains six identical dynamic micro-bioreactors with three different micro-organoid culture segments (A liver, a brain cortex and a bone marrow micro-organoid segment) providing a feed supply and waste reservoirs.

                          With these chips, they might be able to grow them to full maturity!

                          I personally think Tsuji & Lauster are complementary scientific techniques, BOTH feeding off each other!

                          What do u guys reckon?
                          definitely good stuff, there's nothing to say besides hoping that research comes along this path. But for right now, we're better off working hard and living our lives.

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                          • Desmond84
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 987

                            Japan OKs world’s first iPS stem cell clinical trial

                            OK guys, so finally scientists are becoming brave enough to test out induced pluripotent stem cells (iPS) on humans!

                            The first ever human trial using iPStem cells will be conducted on "semi-blind" patients suffering from Macular degenration. The place of trials is set in Japan and the first patient should get his/her first injection by June 2014!

                            Six patients have been selected for this trial and the study will go on for 4 years to see if any of the stem cells will turn cancerous!

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                            So, how does this affect us and why is this in the Tsuji lab thread?

                            Well, for starters Tsuji lab will need to multiply your stem cells to make "hair germs". The easiest way to produce stem cells atm is by converting skin cells into stem cells! These newly formed stem cells are termed "induced pluripotent stem cells" and have all the characteristics of a stem cell!

                            So what's stopping us from using it till now?

                            We've known for sometime that cancer cells go through a very similar process known as 'undifferentiation' which is pretty much a normal cell (e.g. skin cell) turns into a stem cell-like body and then into a cancerous cell (e.g. melanoma).

                            Since we use a very similar method to produce a stem cell (iPS), we have no idea how safe they are or whether they have the potential to turn cancerous.

                            If this trial shows high level of safety, you can be more than certain that many trials will follow including those promised by Tsuji lab!

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                            • StinkySmurf
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 124

                              Originally posted by Desmond84
                              OK guys, so finally scientists are becoming brave enough to test out induced pluripotent stem cells (iPS) on humans!

                              The first ever human trial using iPStem cells will be conducted on "semi-blind" patients suffering from Macular degenration. The place of trials is set in Japan and the first patient should get his/her first injection by June 2014!

                              Six patients have been selected for this trial and the study will go on for 4 years to see if any of the stem cells will turn cancerous!

                              Hola Desmond!

                              iPS seems to be the big hope for Parkinson's research too. I just read the other day they were trying to get an iPS trial going for that as well.

                              Scientists to test iPS cells for Parkinson's disease therapy

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                              • KO1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 805

                                Desmond, I agree that iPS is fascinating stuff, but let's tamp down expectations, it's a long way away, and given the serious safety concerns (cancer), it's unlikely to be used for a cosmetic condition so early.

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