To the naysayers

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

His words exactly when I was on the phone with him last time we spoke about it: "I'm telling you, back when I was a kid, NOBODY lost their hair before their late twenties to thirties. Well, I can actually remember ONE kid in college, I think he might have gotten too close to some plutonium or something!"

it's true though


damn you 21st century lifestyle and hair killing chemicals

[gmonasco]

His words exactly when I was on the phone with him last time we spoke about it: "I'm telling you, back when I was a kid, NOBODY lost their hair before their late twenties to thirties.

Really? Just off the top of my head, I can think of a number of pop stars from my father's generation who were seriously balding by their mid-20s: Mike Love,
David Crosby, Paul Simon, Bobby Elliot, Elton John, Phil Collins.

[yeahyeahyeah]

it's true though


damn you 21st century lifestyle and hair killing chemicals

I read his hair like a fox diet, it is a bit unrealistic. Especially if you are on a work out program. Where you have to drink protein shakes etc etc.

And as another poster pointed out there were plenty of baldies back then.

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

I read his hair like a fox diet, it is a bit unrealistic. Especially if you are on a work out program. Where you have to drink protein shakes etc etc.

And as another poster pointed out there were plenty of baldies back then.

yeah I visited his site but stopped reading where he said

"Propecia WILL give you persistent sexual side effects"

[Davey Jones]

I read his hair like a fox diet, it is a bit unrealistic. Especially if you are on a work out program. Where you have to drink protein shakes etc etc.

My vegan workout partner hit 352lbs on the deadlift before going vegetarian (adding whey). That really isn't a lot, until you consider that she's 5'2", 135lbs lady. You don't need whey to get strong. There's protein all over the place, man! I've even seen fruitarians that are doin' pretty well.

Personally, I'm curious what his book says, from a nutritional standpoint. I highly doubt his diet does much for hair. Has anyone here bought it that'd be willing to share? Where did you read the diet, yeah^3?

[yeahyeahyeah]

My vegan workout partner hit 352lbs on the deadlift before going vegetarian (adding whey). That really isn't a lot, until you consider that she's 5'2", 135lbs lady. You don't need whey to get strong. There's protein all over the place, man! I've even seen fruitarians that are doin' pretty well.

Personally, I'm curious what his book says, from a nutritional standpoint. I highly doubt his diet does much for hair. Has anyone here bought it that'd be willing to share? Where did you read the diet, yeah^3?

http://www.dannyroddy.com/

Subscribe and you will get quick start guide.

Diet is a bit retarded, no nuts, no vegetables too.

[TrueGround]

http://www.dannyroddy.com/

Subscribe and you will get quick start guides.
Diet is a bit retarded, no nuts, no vegetables too.

The diet does seem "retarded" and extreme when you first look at it. But when you realize that it is geared specifically toward hormone optimization for hair growth, things that seem bizarre at first start make sense. What's cool is he recommends getting a specific set of labs (via blood work) where you can get a feel for your starting hormone profile and track your results as you adhere to the diet. Of course, tests are expensive, but could be well worth it not only for your hair, but for general health. What's amazing to me, as he states, is that ALMOST ALL of the balding men who call him for a coaching session have eerily similar hormone profiles (not just elevated DHT). He also mentions that those who claim to stick to the diet, trend toward the lab results he believes are best for hair growth.

In a nut shell, its all about maximizing energy to the hair cells and nurturing an optimal hormone environment, which is supposed to combat and hopefully reverse male pattern hair loss.

About 85% (I'd say) of his research is based on Dr. Raymond Peat, truly brilliant guy:

https://www.raypeat.com

No, he does not recommend vegetables. Yes, he does promote sugar consumption. And no, he does not recommend many supplements to combat hair loss. He also says, "trust nobody, including me!"

I incorporate many of his dietary principles, but am not a "Nazi" about it. It seems to be helping more than just my hair.

[TrueGround]

Really? Just off the top of my head, I can think of a number of pop stars from my father's generation who were seriously balding by their mid-20s: Mike Love,
David Crosby, Paul Simon, Bobby Elliot, Elton John, Phil Collins.

I guess you've got a point, but like he said not before mid to late twenties. I was 19 when I first started, and I'm seeing kids like this more and more often it seems.

A thing to consider, is that PUFA consumption in the U.S. steadily and significantly rose starting around 1950, according to this chart:

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/toxins-and-toxicity/vegetable-oils/

It seems well-established that PUFA's significantly f*ck up hormones and cellular respiration, not to mention, literally tear up your cardiovascular system.

Just food for thought

[yeahyeahyeah]

The diet does seem "retarded" and extreme when you first look at it. But when you realize that it is geared specifically toward hormone optimization for hair growth, things that seem bizarre at first start make sense. What's cool is he recommends getting a specific set of labs (via blood work) where you can get a feel for your starting hormone profile and track your results as you adhere to the diet. Of course, tests are expensive, but could be well worth it not only for your hair, but for general health. What's amazing to me, as he states, is that ALMOST ALL of the balding men who call him for a coaching session have eerily similar hormone profiles (not just elevated DHT). He also mentions that those who claim to stick to the diet, trend toward the lab results he believes are best for hair growth.

In a nut shell, its all about maximizing energy to the hair cells and nurturing an optimal hormone environment, which is supposed to combat and hopefully reverse male pattern hair loss.

About 85% (I'd say) of his research is based on Dr. Raymond Peat, truly brilliant guy:

https://www.raypeat.com

No, he does not recommend vegetables. Yes, he does promote sugar consumption. And no, he does not recommend many supplements to combat hair loss. He also says, "trust nobody, including me!"

I incorporate many of his dietary principles, but am not a "Nazi" about it. It seems to be helping more than just my hair.

So I have great hair, but live a lifestyle where I struggle to make gains at the gym.

Skinny with great hair....hmmm

[gmonasco]

I guess you've got a point, but like he said not before mid to late twenties.

No, what he said was that nobody "lost their hair before their late twenties to thirties."

I was 19 when I first started, and I'm seeing kids like this more and more often it seems.

The guys I mentioned also started losing their hair in their late teens or early twenties; it just took a few years to progress to the point that they could no longer conceal their loss without resorting to wearing hats in public.

[25 going on 65]

Yeah my grandfather, born in the early 30s, was visibly losing it before his 20th birthday. My other grandfather had great hair his whole life though.
Guess which side I inherited.

[gmonasco]

The typical guy also tends not to pay much attention to other people's hair loss until he starts losing hair himself, and then suddenly he's scrutinizing everybody he sees. In those circumstances it's easy to overlook that you probably knew a lot of people who started losing hair when they were young and just didn't notice it.

[ccmethinning]

The typical guy also tends not to pay much attention to other people's hair loss until he starts losing hair himself, and then suddenly he's scrutinizing everybody he sees. In those circumstances it's easy to overlook that you probably knew a lot of people who started losing hair when they were young and just didn't notice it.

Very true. Before I used to pay very little attention. Now I checkout the hairline of every single guy I see.

[UK_]

In the 50s people got married at 22, women stayed home, and men worked in factories for 40 years.

I would have rather have gone bald in the 50s.

lol they also had a mortgage and 2 cars on the drive at that age. These days the kids will be waiting until 40 for anything like that.

Cheers neo-liberalism.

[25 going on 65]

The typical guy also tends not to pay much attention to other people's hair loss until he starts losing hair himself, and then suddenly he's scrutinizing everybody he sees. In those circumstances it's easy to overlook that you probably knew a lot of people who started losing hair when they were young and just didn't notice it.

Definitely. In fact I can think back to guys in my high school who were clearly losing it, but to me it just looked like a "big forehead" or "a short haircut with too much gel weighing it down" or just naturally thin hair.