List of treatments and which one you think will actually work?

[StayThick]

So, CB is completely out the window? Is there anything promising that's inevitably coming up?

No. Nothing promising will be released in the near future.

Save for an FUE or stick to the Big 3. It's yours and my unfortunate reality.

[cichlidfort]

So, CB is completely out the window? Is there anything promising that's inevitably coming up?

[MostlyIrish]

Ok so it's October, the near towards 2017. If you go back to the beginning of this thread, CB was a promising solution. Is that even relevant now? What is relevant and do we have anything for sure coming out that will have better results than the Big 3? Not a cure, but something that will keep what you have or better.

I personally think all the chemical or cell based therapies are not working as well as plan because everyone is missing out on the fact hair loss is multiple approach cure only. People need to realize that we need cell based therapies plus increased blood flow. Neither alone will work.

[cichlidfort]

There's been plenty released since. Trials carried out, sometimes with results warranting further trials that are ongoing. Further funding sought and secured, companies and techniques bought and sold. Semi-near-term release dates made public. Piece after piece of the scientific jigsaw falling into place. And crucially... statistically-significant increases in hair being observed in some cases.

People talk as if all these researchers have been sat around with their thumb up their arse for the past X years when in reality there has been real progress made.

Ok so it's October, the near towards 2017. If you go back to the beginning of this thread, CB was a promising solution. Is that even relevant now? What is relevant and do we have anything for sure coming out that will have better results than the Big 3? Not a cure, but something that will keep what you have or better.

[Handbeezy]

Crazy how long ago this was wrote and nothing substantial released sense

There's been plenty released since. Trials carried out, sometimes with results warranting further trials that are ongoing. Further funding sought and secured, companies and techniques bought and sold. Semi-near-term release dates made public. Piece after piece of the scientific jigsaw falling into place. And crucially... statistically-significant increases in hair being observed in some cases.

People talk as if all these researchers have been sat around with their thumb up their arse for the past X years when in reality there has been real progress made.

[MostlyIrish]

Crazy how long ago this was wrote and nothing substantial released sense

[rdawg]

Great information! Thanks for starting this thread rdawg! Have spent hours and hours reading here to get a lot of this same information you conveniently summarized. Imho, there should be some way we can get a quick summary of relatively objective answers to the most important questions we all have of each treatment so we can save having to go through pages and pages of offtopic/not as important info but you gotta take the good with the bad I guess. Maybe you can edit it as new information is put out or give your opinion about RU and/or natural treatments too.

I will definitely update it when I get new information unfortunately new info usually only comes every 6 months or so!

I'll give an update in December as many things like Histogen, Allergan, Replicel etc. will be ending their current phases by then. Allergan I believe has an update in September, while Histogen will be updated in October I believe.

There is new info on the horizon, either positive or negative but new info none the less!

As for RU/Natural treatments i'm no expert so i'd reccomend looking up specific info/threads on those. I'm currently on "the big 3" or in other words nizoral, Minoxidil and Propecia but i'm pretty early in these treatments(a couple months) so no update yet.

[alanrudy]

Great information! Thanks for starting this thread rdawg! Have spent hours and hours reading here to get a lot of this same information you conveniently summarized. Imho, there should be some way we can get a quick summary of relatively objective answers to the most important questions we all have of each treatment so we can save having to go through pages and pages of offtopic/not as important info but you gotta take the good with the bad I guess. Maybe you can edit it as new information is put out or give your opinion about RU and/or natural treatments too.

[Dazza]

From what I have read ATM it just states 1/2 trail, no a or b.

[rdawg]

Why will it take one whole year to start phase 3 if they are finalising phase 2 dec this year?

The poster above me said they may be doing phase I/IIa and Phase I/IIb trials. They're in a now meaning that the phase IIb trial would start this december meaning an extra year before phase III starts which would be december 2013.

Someone can clarify that though, are they doing 24 months of Phase I/II?

[JRQ]

http://www.wakehealth.edu/WFIRM/

Thanks! Wake Forest has a great team....I hope to see some clinical trials from them soon.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Maybe someone can clarify if it's doing two phase I/II's but that would mean Phase III will start december 2013 if every thing goes right(which it probably will) which means it'll be approved for ASIA december 2014, released early 2015 there and released in North America mid-late 2016 after FDA approval.

If Histogen has great results in december this year though wouldn't it just go straight to the bigger Phase III?

and does anyone know if Histogen is releasing the 6 month results this month?

Essentially though, we'll know if this product works/will come to market within 2 years, the excitement alone I think will be enough to tide me over the extra couple years.

Why will it take one whole year to start phase 3 if they are finalising phase 2 dec this year?

[gmonasco]

Haven't heard of them doing anything....any link where I can check that out?

http://www.wakehealth.edu/WFIRM/

[JRQ]

Yeh you mean like Wake Forest - I totally agree.

Haven't heard of them doing anything....any link where I can check that out?

[rdawg]

It'll be interesting to see if it's slightly more useful than Minoxidil. I wonder if the price will come down if it's mass produced for hair as well?