Any topical treatment to look forward to in the future?

[2020]

looool no.

when are you getting your hands on it.

I'm not until I find a legit source with reasonable prices... I will gut you face

[maxhair]

So, this study has been out since 2004, and yet no one has documented any hair growth with this substance since then, and forum addicts are spending 20G on HTs, but not one of them can afford to try this stuff and report back?

I've been to the company's website, and they make no claims about its effectiveness - not even any anecdotal claims.

Are there any anecdotal claims, anywhere, from anyone who has used it, that says it so much as slows hair loss?

How does anyone know what dose to take?

How does anyone know there are 'no side effects' at a dosage large enough to slow or reverse hairloss, when they don't know what that dose should be?

whilst the science sounds interesting, it doesn't make sense that no one has reported any results yet.

[gutted]

I'm not until I find a legit source with reasonable prices... I will gut you face

looool clock is ticking...

[2020]

So, this study has been out since 2004, and yet no one has documented any hair growth with this substance since then, and forum addicts are spending 20G on HTs, but not one of them can afford to try this stuff and report back?

exactly...

I've been to the company's website, and they make no claims about its effectiveness - not even any anecdotal claims.

uhm what company? As far as I know no one can patent bacteria so no one can own it. What company are you talking about?

Are there any anecdotal claims, anywhere, from anyone who has used it, that says it so much as slows hair loss?

dude it's been tested in vitro, vivo rats and vivo in humans with prostate issues. It works! It binds to DHT that's what it does. It also has a bunch of other healthy functions so why it's beneficial to take it orally. It helps with diabetes I've heard....

How does anyone know what dose to take?

much higher than you think. In all of those studies they used 50-300 and more mg DAILY:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=equol

How does anyone know there are 'no side effects' at a dosage large enough to slow or reverse hairloss, when they don't know what that dose should be?

well first of all, certain people(mostly asians) make equol bacteria NATURALLY.
Do you think they suffer from side effects? Check the studies I posted above. It's been tested a lot with zero side effects.

whilst the science sounds interesting, it doesn't make sense that no one has reported any results yet.

I know right...

[2020]

looool clock is ticking...

what clock? I will murder your face

[maxhair]

I've participated in several clinical trials, as a healthy volunteer, and they always ask "any other symptoms or issues to report?"

So in all these trials you say have taken place with equol, no one has reported any hair growth.

Have any of the trials dosed long enough to produce hair growth?

Even if not, there should be some DIYers who have taken large doses over a long period. Where the f*uck are they?

[2020]

I've participated in several clinical trials, as a healthy volunteer, and they always ask "any other symptoms or issues to report?"

So in all these trials you say have taken place with equol, no one has reported any hair growth.

a lot of these trials are to measure other health benefits... so they test women with menopausal symptoms or something like that. Normal women won't grow more hair with DHT blockers...

Have any of the trials dosed long enough to produce hair growth?

some of them probably

[Dazza]

2020: from the OC thread you said that was the "CURE" now your also saying this EQUOL is also a "CURE". So we have 2 potential cures for hairloss yet no companys are producing this stuff directly for hairloss? Seems strange, it's almost like they hate money and fame for finding the "CURE"

[ppxrare]

So I guess nothing to look forward to? No company is planning on surprising us with a good hair loss drug in the near future? not even Merck whos propecia patent will end soon?

[Dazza]

not sure, some companies could be working on something which we are not aware of, look at l'oreal, that came out of know where.

[Kirby_]

I'm now convinced that there will NEVER be anything available on the mainstream market apart from fin, dut and minox. EVER.

[gutted]

I'm now convinced that there will NEVER be anything available on the mainstream market apart from fin, dut and minox. EVER.

so long as the problem exists., there will be a far superior treatment than all 3 combined.

[gutted]

what clock? I will murder your face

loooooooooool think about your hair rather than murdering my face.
how is the borage oil working?

[Dazza]

kirby: there is far to much money to be made in the hairloss industry. There are quite afew companies working on products as we speak, all wanting to get out first to get there market space set, no doubt a new company will want to better said company and release a newer better product. mind you the company that comes up with the cure will be so dam rich.

[gutted]

kirby: there is far to much money to be made in the hairloss industry. There are quite afew companies working on products as we speak, all wanting to get out first to get there market space set, no doubt a new company will want to better said company and release a newer better product. mind you the company that comes up with the cure will be so dam rich.

exactly, so long as the problem exists, there will be alot of money to be made, lets just hope these newer companies dont bring out an inconvenient "everyday use" product.