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  • new bubble
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 98

    Originally posted by gutted
    stemoxydine is a prolyl hydroxylase inhibitor

    the following study states administeration of a prolyl hydroxylase inhibitor caused bone marrow progenitor cells to be increased.
    We demonstrated that transient activation of the HIF signaling pathway by a single systemic DMOG treatment upregulates not only anti-apoptotic pathways but also enhances neovascularization with concomitant increase in the numbers of bone marrow-derived progenitor cells.


    loreal must know something we dont about thier product. hopefully it has some sort of effect.
    Gutted you seem to get a lot of info on this, we need the clinical studies in this if you can conducted by l'oreal

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    • gutted
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1397

      Originally posted by new bubble
      Gutted you seem to get a lot of info on this, we need the clinical studies in this if you can conducted by l'oreal
      i asked about the study at the online pharmacy...will see what respond with.

      as for contacting vichy directly, i havent tried that yet.

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      • new bubble
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 98

        Originally posted by gutted
        i asked about the study at the online pharmacy...will see what respond with.

        as for contacting vichy directly, i havent tried that yet.
        why would they sell online and not mainstream in supermarkets or drug stores directly like they do with there other products.

        I don't think they are confident with this product, and there using Vichy to do it even though l'oreal own it but how many people know this. What bugs me L'OREAL are not using there own name to promote it

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        • gutted
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1397

          the guy who conducted the trial

          "Dr. Pascal Reygagne. Dr.. Pascal Reygagne is internationally renowned dermatologist, tricholoog (hair expert) and Sabouraud Director of the Health Center at St. Louis Hospital in Paris."

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          • new bubble
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 98

            Originally posted by gutted
            the guy who conducted the trial

            "Dr. Pascal Reygagne. Dr.. Pascal Reygagne is internationally renowned dermatologist, tricholoog (hair expert) and Sabouraud Director of the Health Center at St. Louis Hospital in Paris."
            I have already read that, pictures is what we need and that study

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            • gutted
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1397

              Originally posted by new bubble
              why would they sell online and not mainstream in supermarkets or drug stores directly like they do with there other products.

              I don't think they are confident with this product, and there using Vichy to do it even though l'oreal own it but how many people know this. What bugs me L'OREAL are not using there own name to promote it
              i really dont know, vichy is specifically used to launch hair care products.

              we can speculate on its efficacy all we want but we wont be any more wiser if its not actually tried out.

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              • NotBelievingIt
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 594

                Originally posted by new bubble
                what does this mean, please explain in simple laymans terms regarding hair loss/growth
                A progenitor cell is basically a stem cell. Bone Marrow is the ultimate source of non-embryionc stem cells.

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                • gutted
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1397

                  in mpb, stem cells dont mature into prognetor cells, hence why people go bald. The study above indicates a propyl hydroxylase inhibitor causes an increase in prognetor cells.

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                  • new bubble
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 98

                    Originally posted by gutted
                    in mpb, stem cells dont mature into prognetor cells, hence why people go bald. The study above indicates a propyl hydroxylase inhibitor causes an increase in prognetor cells.
                    looks like mpbtreatments has already jumped in and produced a pgd2 inhibitor as a topical solution

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                    • new bubble
                      Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 98

                      Originally posted by new bubble
                      looks like mpbtreatments has already jumped in and produced a pgd2 inhibitor as a topical solution
                      Appologies for the above, mpb are in research faze next is the development of it

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                      • new bubble
                        Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 98

                        Originally posted by new bubble
                        Appologies for the above, mpb are in research faze next is the development of it
                        this is what I read;

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                        • Zefrench
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 5

                          Hello guys! I'm french

                          I often come on this forum to see news because on french forums they are all stupid and they just say everything is screwed, ****ed I dunno how to say, but many members don't have any hopes and just spam on the forum.

                          About the new product by l'Oreal, i saw that you had doubt (normal I think) because no news anywhere ... But I 'm french, my google is french, so I often try to see if websites talk about it and every french websites talked about it at least one time. Last in date was three days before : http://www.gentside.com/calvitie/une..._art43949.html

                          So I don't think it's shit, because if l'oreal says that there will be a gain of whatever percent of hair, if they garantee it, no doubt it's true. The thing is: will it be useful for people who are totally bald --> I don't think so.

                          About me, I'm young and some hairs begins thin even if we cannot really see it for the moment. But I just hope that a ****ing good product will come out before i'm bald, in the next ten years cuz i'm just 22 so it's just the beginning of Hell :P.

                          See you soon ! And sorry if my english is not always very good ! Just tryin to improve it

                          A bientot

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                          • LPSboxing
                            Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 94

                            Originally posted by Zefrench
                            So I don't think it's shit, because if l'oreal says that there will be a gain of whatever percent of hair, if they garantee it, no doubt it's true.
                            well....in theory this is right, but do you know what happened with their previous product, that aminexil shit?

                            It was supposed to work, but it simply didn't.

                            I have not tried it myself though, just reporting what I have been reading around.

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                            • Zefrench
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 5




                              On french forum doctissimo, they are talkin about this publicité.
                              22 September in Tchek Republic, so in France, probably before ? I'll definitely test it.

                              Hope we'll be able to be proud of our french product if it's a success. Solution will come from France, from Sabouraud ! :P

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                              • gutted
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1397

                                Originally posted by Zefrench
                                Hello guys! I'm french

                                I often come on this forum to see news because on french forums they are all stupid and they just say everything is screwed, ****ed I dunno how to say, but many members don't have any hopes and just spam on the forum.
                                loool its these nw7'ers that really like to discredit new treatments very much as they know nothing but a HT would "fix" them.

                                anyway im hoping some nw7'ers would actually try this out, any growth would clearley be visible on nw5/67 scalp whereas on nw1/2/3/4 it would be pretty difficult to assess/misjudge.

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