Neogenic by L’Oréal

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  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1776

    Originally posted by UK_
    Up to you but it looks like a rehash of their old 'Aminexil' product they released 5 years ago:



    Same price, same bullshit promises.

    The lead researcher is probably sitting in his office smoking a cigar looking like Mr T with all his gold chains an gold teeth.
    There is no minox in this one

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    • UK_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2691

      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
      There is no minox in this one
      Aminexil doesnt contain minox - it contains "Aminexil SP94" - which is a patented molecule by Loreal just like stemoxybullshitdine.

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        Originally posted by Kirby_
        The trademarked 'special ingredient' of this snake oil is called Stemoxydine.
        No it's called Stemoxybullshitdine.

        They also have a second patened formula due out in September 2089 called Stemoxylyingcorporatescumbagwankersdine.

        I cant wait for that one.

        Corporations are the same as banks, they make their products sound all sophisticated... like hedge fund managers selling you "corporate secure long term investment growth mortgage stability funds".... sounds good & safe yeh? In reality you are buying a sub-prime investment for a convict who just purchased a house worth $400,000.

        CaChing.

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        • MrBlonde
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 261

          Well if it helps me maintain what I got I will be more than happy to fork out for this and if it adds extra thickness to I will be delighted.

          I don't know the science behind expanding the capillarys or the advantages tbh but if someone would be kind enough to give me the skinny on it.

          Will it thicken exisiting hair and give recently closed capillarys the ability to regrow hair?

          Or is just going to give what you have extra body but not save it from the ravages of MPB, i.e it will look great as its falling out?

          Or are we all guessing and wondering what can happen here?

          I will be more than happy to try this and document any changes for you guys. The only thing that worries me is the lack of information in regards testing results and sides.

          I am a strong believer in the complexity of the human body and that if you stop or reverse something your body is doing naturally then there is 0% chance that it will not have a knock on effect elsewhere in the body.

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          • gutted
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1397

            translated version here ->

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            • UK_
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2691

              MrBlonde... even though we know this wont do shit... we probably all will buy it too... that's just how it is in the hair loss community... we're easy targets b/c we're desperate.

              Sold under the name Dercos Neogénic from September, in pharmacies and drugstores, the new treatment to Stemoxydine will be offered in boxes of 6 ml single dose daily for use in courses of three months (price € 56.90 for two weeks, € 79.90 for one month). Il est conseillé aux hommes, mais aussi aux femmes, qui perdent leurs cheveux. It is advisable to men but also women, who lose their hair. Cette nouveauté ne permet pas d'imaginer des résultats pour ceux qui ont une calvitie totale. This innovation can not imagine the results for those who have a total baldness.
              What do they mean by this?... can not imagine the results for those who have a total baldness?

              Can someone translate this to Chinese so I can understand it better?

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              • WillhasWill
                Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 54

                There is a lot of hate for L’Oréal.

                I don't think L’Oréal are the ones will be the saviours for hair loss sufferers. From what I've read this product encourages the hair follicles in the resting phase to enter the growth phase. So in theory you will have more hairs in the growth phase than normal, which will create thicker and fuller hair.

                But the balance between hair follicles in the resting and growth phases will be out of sync, all these hairs that are now in the growth phase will enter the resting phase at some point. This will mean your hair will be even thinner than normal in this period. Plus, it does not combat male pattern baldness in any way. So these hairs are due to fall out sooner or later anyway.

                Encouraging the hair into the growth phase may mean we speed up our baldness quicker. We'll just have relatively thick hair before going completely bald!

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                • WillhasWill
                  Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 54

                  Originally posted by UK_
                  What do they mean by this?... can not imagine the results for those who have a total baldness?
                  If you're bald it won't work.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    Doesnt it have more to do with preserving the activity of stem cells by maintaining hypoxic conditions in the scalp? And I think there's a constant imbalance already between the number of hairs in growth/telogen etc - they dont all cycle in perfect harmony.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      Originally posted by WillhasWill
                      If you're bald it won't work.
                      Oh well that's just ****ing great isnt it.

                      **** Loreal ****ing mother****ing assholes.

                      If they cant treat bald scalps... why are they talking about "activating dormant follicles"??? How do they get away with their bullshit lies?? I ****ing hate journalists and people who work in marketing.

                      If you're a journalist or working in marketing **** YOU.

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by UK_
                        Doesnt it have more to do with preserving the activity of stem cells by maintaining hypoxic conditions in the scalp? And I think there's a constant imbalance already between the number of hairs in growth/telogen etc - they dont all cycle in perfect harmony.
                        THIS is what baldness is all about! the over expression of cox enzymes via androgens and then the damage via the bodys dfence system.

                        anyway i think this product if it works may help norwood 1 - 4 to get those resting follicles out into the anagen phase, thats if it works. It'll probably have minimal effect on nw7 scalps, people with nw5-7 should not try this, they will be wasting thier money as it will not result in cosmetically beneficail results.

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                        • gutted
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1397

                          Originally posted by UK_
                          If they cant treat bald scalps... why are they talking about "activating dormant follicles"??? How do they get away with their bullshit lies?? I ****ing hate journalists and people who work in marketing.
                          bald scalps i.e norwood 5-7 have more goin on in thier scalps, which is fibrosis, this results in major damage hence why it wont have cosmetically benficial effcts on bald scalps.

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                          • Follicle Death Row
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 1058

                            Can't believe anyone is considering buying this. I'd rather just save the money. This is going to do absolutely nothing. I hope the product tanks so they get the message that we're not desperate morons that will buy any pos snake oil "treatment".

                            Do the community a favour guys and avoid this product. Of course if they come out with real clinical study results I'd love to look like an idiot and hypocrite but tbh guys, I really don't see it.

                            All the best.

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                            • UK_
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2691

                              Yes PLEASE dont send the message that we are still stupid enough to fall for this garbage.

                              I will not be buying this junk - it will just be another TRX2 or bioregenerative sciences.

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                              • Kirby_
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 439

                                The only plausible way that this will work to some degree is if it manipulates PGE2 and/or PGD2 in beneficial ways. Chances of that are remote, of course.

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