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  • garethbale
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 603

    Originally posted by Artista
    I too APPRECIATE those of you who would ,not only spend the time and money to test this product, but to ALSO share with the rest of us their outcomes. You members truly are BROTHERS here and should not be demeaned. (if that is the case)
    Thanks guys.


    cue cheesy music

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    • vinnytr
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 227

      Originally posted by elusive52
      hey uk, you seem very bitter, take it easy man you'll have a heart attack...

      if its bullshit i wasted my money so you guys can find out, then no one else will buy it and its over for them.

      at least this way millions wont be buying it if it is a scam.

      i dont see how you can be so sure it wont work until at least some have tried it, bit stupid that. if we all have that attitude to everything that comes out we will never find a solution.

      if you cant afford it now, just wait until we get the results and you dont have to waste your money...relax!!!

      ps. 1700 new hairs is a lot and i would easily be able to to notice that without any equipment.

      +1

      Please tell us what your results will be after 3 months time .

      How old are you ?
      What NW are you ?
      Are you using anything else ?

      I have started using revivogen 1 month ago and although since then i have been reading its total crap from a few sources that apparently used it for months i am still going to use it for 3 months to see if there is any difference where as If i knock it now i will never find out if it works or not.

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      • doke
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1464

        Originally posted by Artista
        I too APPRECIATE those of you who would ,not only spend the time and money to test this product, but to ALSO share with the rest of us their outcomes. You members truly are BROTHERS here and should not be demeaned. (if that is the case)
        Thanks guys.
        Ha ha ha anyone remember uk boyband brother beyond hahaha

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        • UK_
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2691

          To all those people coming on this thread praising those who are "testing" this product:

          Have you ever thought to yourselves for a moment "why on earth am I waiting on a complete stranger in a forum to see if a cosmetic treatment works?" - I mean think about it - if this product truly worked - they'd have a complete charade of evidence of efficacy behind them - unsurprisingly like every other garbage product that has ever been released THEY DONT!

          To treat hair loss - you need a component along the lines of cell therapy, to be able to not only grow hair on your head but also on your feet and hands too if the therapy were to be applied there - not some dodgy foreign topical sold on ebay.

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2691

            Originally posted by elusive52
            hi i am actually using propecia aswell. all that has ever done is stabilize the loss, never really grown any back.

            it will be very easy for me to tell if this neogenic does what they claim.
            So your results about Neogenic are completely worthless lol - even if you get efficacy nobody here can tie it to Neogenic.

            This is why I stated there should have been a controlled study - unfortunately the company didnt need to - they already knew how stupid and gullible the public would be due to their previous success with Aminexil, they spend the money on marketing (conferences and cheap ads) instead of proper R&D, then released a cosmetic, beautiful!

            You call me bitter - but take a look at the title of this website - there's a reason it's called that.

            I might be bitter - but id rather be bitter than stand in line with the faecal laborious irritatingly stupid dross that is the general public, that cant seem to stop getting themselves into unimaginable amounts of personal debt, buying worthless consumables for the sake of it, living a lifestyle beyond their means & falling perpetually for the hyped up marketing of these lying corporations.

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            • elusive52
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 11

              Originally posted by UK_
              So your results about Neogenic are completely worthless lol - even if you get efficacy nobody here can tie it to Neogenic.

              This is why I stated there should have been a controlled study - unfortunately the company didnt need to - they already knew how stupid and gullible the public would be due to their previous success with Aminexil, they spend the money on marketing (conferences and cheap ads) instead of proper R&D, then released a cosmetic, beautiful!

              You call me bitter - but take a look at the title of this website - there's a reason it's called that.

              I might be bitter - but id rather be bitter than stand in line with the faecal laborious irritatingly stupid dross that is the general public, that cant seem to stop getting themselves into unimaginable amounts of personal debt, buying worthless consumables for the sake of it, living a lifestyle beyond their means & falling perpetually for the hyped up marketing of these lying corporations.
              hi, i've been taking propecia for years, all its ever done is stop/stabilise the hair loss.

              if neogenic works (and by works i mean grows average 1700 'NEW' hairs as they claim) then i will be able to tell with ease. and if the same happened for others then we know its for real.

              also you probably say they are fake but the company (vichy) has released photographic evidence of this product growing new hair. if its all bullshit we will find out sooner rather than later.

              other people on here will know better than me but im sure the reason they dont carry out all the studies as you say is because they are releasing this as a cosmetic product not a certified drug that has to get fda approval etc saving millions and a whole lot of time. maybe im wrong about this, others can put me right...

              and of course we need a wide selection of people on here to try it, that are not on propecia, are on it, on minox, etc etc etc.

              if i do get any positive results i will stop propecia immediately and just use this.

              as for people getting into debt...this product only needs to be used for 3 months, if there are no results after this time period it will be easy to call it a fake. so i will only of lost £210, not really that much is it?

              cheers.

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              • youngin
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 338

                I'm a NW6 and only using Retin-A which I can quit any time. I'll do a controlled study if someone buys it for me lol

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                • UK_
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2691

                  Originally posted by youngin
                  I'm a NW6 and only using Retin-A which I can quit any time. I'll do a controlled study if someone buys it for me lol
                  There's no need to - Retin A will not create the biological miracle of regenerating fully functional hair follicles, you might end up with a less wrinkly head as you age though.

                  And money isnt the issue - especially when the producers are a multinational corporation - the very fact that said company has not conducted proper clinical investigation rings alarm bells - they did the same for Aminexil in 2003, that turned out well.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    Originally posted by elusive52
                    hi, i've been taking propecia for years, all its ever done is stop/stabilise the hair loss.

                    (1) if neogenic works (and by works i mean grows average 1700 'NEW' hairs as they claim) then i will be able to tell with ease. and if the same happened for others then we know its for real.

                    also you probably say they are fake but the company (vichy) has released photographic evidence of this product growing new hair. if its all bullshit we will find out sooner rather than later.

                    other people on here will know better than me but im sure (2) the reason they dont carry out all the studies as you say is because they are releasing this as a cosmetic product not a certified drug that has to get fda approval etc saving millions and a whole lot of time. maybe im wrong about this, others can put me right...

                    and of course we need a wide selection of people on here to try it, that are not on propecia, are on it, on minox, etc etc etc.

                    if i do get any positive results i will stop propecia immediately and just use this.

                    as for people getting into debt...this product only needs to be used for 3 months, if there are no results after this time period it will be easy to call it a fake. so i will only of lost £210, not really that much is it?

                    cheers.
                    (1) I find it beyond hilarious that you even toy with the belief that this product could achieve such a feat - how on earth would such a biological mechanism even work? You're talking of a topical COSMETIC treatment being able to perform something the most sophisticated labs across the globe cant even get their heads around.

                    (2) They're not SAVING MILLIONS by not going through the FDA route *face palm* Jesus Christ man you know what? Go ahead, buy it.

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                    • youngin
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 338

                      Originally posted by UK_
                      There's no need to - Retin A will not create the biological miracle of regenerating fully functional hair follicles, you might end up with a less wrinkly head as you age though.

                      And money isnt the issue - especially when the producers are a multinational corporation - the very fact that said company has not conducted proper clinical investigation rings alarm bells - they did the same for Aminexil in 2003, that turned out well.
                      On the contrary, Retin-A has worked quite well to an extent. Weather its thickening vellus hairs or grown new hairs.. I don't know. But its doing something. Studies have already shown that it works to an extent and boosts minox. I have done my research. I still may try Neogenic since I have a very nice camera and keep a shaved head, it would be easy to see any regrowth.

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by youngin
                        On the contrary, Retin-A has worked quite well to an extent. Weather its thickening vellus hairs or grown new hairs.. I don't know. But its doing something. Studies have already shown that it works to an extent and boosts minox. I have done my research. I still may try Neogenic since I have a very nice camera and keep a shaved head, it would be easy to see any regrowth.
                        nw6's are probably the last people that would respond to neogenic.

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                        • youngin
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 338

                          Originally posted by gutted
                          nw6's are probably the last people that would respond to neogenic.
                          I still have alot of vellus hairs. If it doesnt turn vellus hairs into terminal then what use is it to any NW.

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                          • UK_
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2691

                            Originally posted by youngin
                            On the contrary, Retin-A has worked quite well to an extent. (? - either it works or it doesnt) Weather its thickening vellus hairs or grown new hairs.. I don't know. But its doing something. Studies have already shown that it works to an extent and boosts minox. I have done my research. I still may try Neogenic since I have a very nice camera and keep a shaved head, it would be easy to see any regrowth.
                            What studies? Can you cite them?

                            There are lists of studies that can even be dated back to the 70's that show a positive impact on hair loss - none of them however are released because they're truly not effective in the sense that we need them to be. They're (as you rightfully put it) effective to an extent - but if that extent is growing 1 or 2 vellus hairs over a period of 6 months, sorry that's not a viable treatment worthy of my time or money.

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                            • elusive52
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 11

                              Originally posted by UK_
                              (1) I find it beyond hilarious that you even toy with the belief that this product could achieve such a feat - how on earth would such a biological mechanism even work? You're talking of a topical COSMETIC treatment being able to perform something the most sophisticated labs across the globe cant even get their heads around.

                              (2) They're not SAVING MILLIONS by not going through the FDA route *face palm* Jesus Christ man you know what? Go ahead, buy it.
                              1. i dont get your logic. We are talking about loreal here, the worlds largest cosmetic company, thats who owns vichy. they do have access to highly sophisticated labs and years of research.

                              i said they 'RELEASE' it as a cosmetic product to sidestep all the incredibly difficult obstacles that an fda approved 'DRUG' (like propecia) needs to go through.

                              2. do you know how much money it takes to conduct clinical phase 1,2,3 trials? millions... and the time. look at histogen...

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                              • gutted
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1397

                                Originally posted by youngin
                                I still have alot of vellus hairs. If it doesnt turn vellus hairs into terminal then what use is it to any NW.
                                are you on any other treatments apart from retin A?

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