Neogenic by L’Oréal

[gutted]

You would think if this was so good and l'oreal believed there new product could acheive the results they would be advertising everywhere!!

the only places ive seen it advertised are some european beauty/cosmetic websites, baumans blog, telegraph and a few french newspapers/sites.

they dont have an offical page on thier website about the actual product, but its probably under construction? but who knows.

[LPSboxing]

L'Oreality check

That was a masterpiece!

[Kiwi]

you have a point: maybe L'oreal is just full of s***. Only thing these days in the world of internet if l'oreal product doesn't work they will be found out in double quick time. I would like it to work so it sets some kind of bench mark for better treatments but l'oreal track record isn't good

All it needs to be is just a tiny bit better then minox K

[30plus]

Massively, massively sceptical about all this neogenic BS... Remember Tricologic anyone??

The PGD2 story seems more promising - however two years to come up, test, approve and release a product seems incredibly optimistic.

I hope I'm proved wrong...

[BoSox]

Just think, 2 more years and we won't have to deal with all this crap.

Hopefully.

[thechamp]

Originally posted by: lothar

You're probably right. One of the sites selling it essentially quotes 16-18% density from the clinical study that hasn't been released yet, as far as I know. That much density would be amazing in 3 months but no one seemed to care when I posted it a few weeks ago on TBT.

This:

- Increase in hair density vs. placebo = 1700 new hair The subjects also stated *:

18% more hair abundance

16% more volume of hair

Efficacy proven in hospitals *

* Study group 101 people, daily use for 3 months.


the link at the top didn't work for me and i couldn't find the study. is there anything to suggest that there is benefit after 3 months of use such as

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

lol ........

[lothar99]

The L'Oréal Research has discovered the source of new hair fullness: the stem cells. You can divide and reactivate the hair follicles in the Neogene period. Before the anagen phase again with the hair growth starts, the hair is awoken from his "sleep phase". Recently, the L'Oréal research has discovered how this "awakening" can be stimulated. The sleep phase must be shortened so that the number of inactive follicles falling. Plays an important role Neogene phase. During this time the hair is stimulated and passes out of the sleep phase out again into the growth phase.

Vichy Dercos Neogenic

With STEMOXYDINE in 5% concentration

EFFECTIVENESS clinically proven

The density of hair is visibly improved after 3 months of use.
Proven effectiveness vs. Placebo

RESULTS:
+35% Hitherto dormant, now "awakened" / reactivated follicles.

Average up to 1700 more hair within 3 months.

THE APPLICATOR

Application
1x daily use. The innovative applicator ensures easy handling every day. Once the dosage is like a cartridge insert into the applicator, without removing the cap or puncture. The product is distributed for peak apex with gently stimulating zigzag movements of the applicator over the entire scalp and not rinsed.

Duration
As a cure for 3 months. The cure, if necessary, repeat.

Massage
Distributed after application with the fingertips of both hands with gentle pressure and massage movements, the product on the scalp.

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

you're reposting something that's not from an official source and is being put into question

[lothar99]

you're reposting something that's not from an official source and is being put into question

What an unhelpful post. I have no idea what you mean it has been put into question, because this is different information than the presumably made up "NBC news" post.

All of the information except for the Vichy event with the photos is "not from an official source", but instead from the distributors of the product who soon will be selling it, or from articles written about Neogenic. Presumably the distributors have information about Neogenic and the clinical trial that is not publicly released yet, for use in writing product descriptions to sell Neogenic, and for general use in product roll out.

Therefore much of the information we have to get is secondhand from these descriptions. If you are only interested from information that is directly from L'Oreal this thread isn't going to be much help for you at the moment.


Edit: For those concerned about price, the sites basically say one ampule a day or a minimum of one ampule every 3 days. I don't know if that means 1/3rd of an ampule a day or 1 every 3rd day. 6ml seems like a lot for one dose anyways.

[thechamp]

http://translate.google.cz/translate...ermindering%2F good link

[new bubble]

http://translate.google.cz/translate...ermindering%2F good link

THanks that a little more info but I want to see some real scientific proof from a science journal, this l'oreal product is far too quiet and it doesn't address hormonal affects to hair loss, the real underline cause

[gutted]

THanks that a little more info but I want to see some real scientific proof from a science journal, this l'oreal product is far too quiet and it doesn't address hormonal affects to hair loss, the real underline cause

been trying to locate the scientific article that the scientist dr bernard bruno displayed at the EHRS but had no luck...

imo one of the primary reasons why treatments appear to fail is becuase of the fact that people have not addressed this underlying excess hormone problem, this results in shed/loss rate VS new growth rate (from the treatment) outweighs the treatments benefit due to dht(/cox 2) still doing its damage.

so anyone who thinks this will be a treatment to STOP hair loss is wasting money, but it could beneift you for a short while.

[new bubble]

been trying to locate the scientific article that the scientist dr bernard bruno displayed at the EHRS but had no luck...

imo one of the primary reasons why treatments appear to fail is becuase of the fact that people have not addressed this underlying excess hormone problem, this results in shed/loss rate VS new growth rate (from the treatment) outweighs the treatments benefit due to dht(/cox 2) still doing its damage.

so anyone who thinks this will be a treatment to STOP hair loss is wasting money, but it could beneift you for a short while.

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precisely!! this is what Dr C. is supposed to have achieved. He is addressing the underline issue once that is done and the foundations layed, growing hair will be much easier to do than presently achieved by minox an Fin. Well thats the logic. Now If the drugs for PGD2 are being currently used for asthma wonder if those users have hair problems??

[Dazza]

been trying to locate the scientific article that the scientist dr bernard bruno displayed at the EHRS but had no luck...

imo one of the primary reasons why treatments appear to fail is becuase of the fact that people have not addressed this underlying excess hormone problem, this results in shed/loss rate VS new growth rate (from the treatment) outweighs the treatments benefit due to dht(/cox 2) still doing its damage.

so anyone who thinks this will be a treatment to STOP hair loss is wasting money, but it could beneift you for a short while.

Which makes it seem that loreals statement saying this is just one of there upcoming hairloss products and the resent announcement from the loreal funded DrC a coincidence. Maybe there thinking of releasing a pg blocker and using this product as the booster.