Problem with histogen

[mlao]

Good point! Hadn't the idiots over taken my jew-comment like so crying babies, this thread would still be on track.

Give me an F@#$ing break you come to a forum where people are looking for intelligent discussions on hair loss and you make an Anti-semetic remark.
But I'm supposed to think it's okay because your'e an 18 year old Norwegian
Who assumes that since he learned his english from movies he knows everything there is to know about American humor and culture.
Do you think that anybody with any brains or sensitivity would go to a Scandinavian forum and make a tasteless joke about a mass murderer.
I REALLY DOUBT IT!
And while we're at it some of the most philanthropic people in America are of Jewish Ancestry.
That's all I'm going to say.

[WillhasWill]

Stop sensationalising thread titles! Especially when they are derogatory towards histogen and replicel. Our very chances of breakthrough treatments over the few years or so.

Doke, you mention many hair loss sufferers want to take a topical treatment as well as an oral DHT combo?

I was under the impression most hair loss sufferers would like to pop to a clinic once for X amount of injections and be freed from hair loss for a significant amount of years to come.

I'm in the UK and I'm currently having invisalign treatment over 12 months. It has cost me around £3k and I've spread it over 12 months.

If histogen or replicel come to fruition with an excellent treatment with only minor side effects and which lasts 10 years + I'd imagine we'd be talking thousands. Though, I still think it will be a lot less than current hair transplant prices.

I would say an average person could easily afford it over here in the UK by spreading payments out over 1-5 years.

In the long run, I'd imagine any of these future treatments will probably be a lot cheaper than fin and rogaine.

With a real treatment to hairloss, something we simply don't have now, they can't run the risk of pricing people out. Stack high and sell cheap will make them more money if they have a treatment no bald/balding person can refuse.

Remember, only about 10% of balding people actively search and try treatments. I believe this number is so low because there is an underlying knowledge that THERE IS NO TREATMENT THAT REALLY WORKS. Sure, you can slow things down for a bit, grow 10% back maybe. But it comes with side effects, expense, and a lot of patience needed. Bring to market a product that simply works and ALOT of those 90% of hair loss sufferers currently not pursuing treatments will come flooding in.

[paulsreef]

the thread should be titled "problem with (lack of) money."

if the product works as advertised, histogen won't have any problem charging an arm and a leg.

Invest in the company; if they produce a great product and sales go through the roof you'll make the money for the treatment and more.

[mjolnir]

Invest in the company; if they produce a great product and sales go through the roof you'll make the money for the treatment and more.

Not sure if that's the best idea. If for whatever reason the product fails, you'll be disappointed enough as it is; losing your money in addition to that isn't going to help matters.

[doke]

Stop sensationalising thread titles! Especially when they are derogatory towards histogen and replicel. Our very chances of breakthrough treatments over the few years or so.

Doke, you mention many hair loss sufferers want to take a topical treatment as well as an oral DHT combo?

I was under the impression most hair loss sufferers would like to pop to a clinic once for X amount of injections and be freed from hair loss for a significant amount of years to come.

I'm in the UK and I'm currently having invisalign treatment over 12 months. It has cost me around £3k and I've spread it over 12 months.

If histogen or replicel come to fruition with an excellent treatment with only minor side effects and which lasts 10 years + I'd imagine we'd be talking thousands. Though, I still think it will be a lot less than current hair transplant prices.

I would say an average person could easily afford it over here in the UK by spreading payments out over 1-5 years.

In the long run, I'd imagine any of these future treatments will probably be a lot cheaper than fin and rogaine.

With a real treatment to hairloss, something we simply don't have now, they can't run the risk of pricing people out. Stack high and sell cheap will make them more money if they have a treatment no bald/balding person can refuse.

Remember, only about 10% of balding people actively search and try treatments. I believe this number is so low because there is an underlying knowledge that THERE IS NO TREATMENT THAT REALLY WORKS. Sure, you can slow things down for a bit, grow 10% back maybe. But it comes with side effects, expense, and a lot of patience needed. Bring to market a product that simply works and ALOT of those 90% of hair loss sufferers currently not pursuing treatments will come flooding in.

hi 3k you have been robbed.

[WillhasWill]

hi 3k you have been robbed.

It's interesting you can make that assumption without any knowledge of how complex my case is, or isn't.

Either way, it's the correct price over here in the UK. And like many industries, much like the hair transplant industry, prices vary. Dentists, a long with hair transplant surgeons are not all made identical.

Trust, experience and expertise is needed when dealing with my health thank you! So if someone is offering me cut price orthodontics, hair transplants or anything else I'm going to want to know why!

If they don't value their time and skills then why should I.

You get what you pay for...

[doke]

oh so if thats the going rate for hair loss you still been scammed what a load of old bull****. you pay a lot of money so it has to be worth it hahaha

[Kiwi]

Give me an F@#$ing break you come to a forum where people are looking for intelligent discussions on hair loss and you make an Anti-semetic remark.
But I'm supposed to think it's okay because your'e an 18 year old Norwegian
Who assumes that since he learned his english from movies he knows everything there is to know about American humor and culture.
Do you think that anybody with any brains or sensitivity would go to a Scandinavian forum and make a tasteless joke about a mass murderer.
I REALLY DOUBT IT!
And while we're at it some of the most philanthropic people in America are of Jewish Ancestry.
That's all I'm going to say.

What do you call a gay dinosaur?
A megasoreass

[doke]

What do you call a gay dinosaur?
A megasoreass

hahahahaha

[WillhasWill]

oh so if thats the going rate for hair loss you still been scammed what a load of old bull****. you pay a lot of money so it has to be worth it hahaha

Lets not go off on a tangent. It's of course primarily and most importantly (I said nothing otherwise) coupled with research into the people you are paying your money too.

If you have concluded your research and you believe you are going to the person that is going to give you want you want, then if you're fortunate enough the cost can be a secondary concern. My point is that higher skilled people command higher prices but I did not say high prices equal high quality by default.

In your case it sounds like cost may be your primary concern. So if cost is the most important factor in your decision process then you are less likely to get high quality, as you'll be sorting for cheaper options. Just a general rule of thumb in any industry.

Anyway, we are not even on topic and this is not be relevant to histogen and replicel treatments, as they'll be pretty standardised. But it's still a very good point and why the hair transplant industry in particular is so screwed up.

[mlao]

What do you call a gay dinosaur?
A megasoreass

What are you implying?

[Kiwi]

What are you implying?

Nothing at all

[Tracy C]

Also when you mention a clinic it rings alarm bells ££$$$$$ and what many of us hair loss sufferers want is a simple to use topical product that can be easy to use at home and an oral dht combo perhaps as well is this too much to ask?

I do not believe this statement is very accurate at all. You are not paying attention to reality. Besides, men already have a topical that is easy to use and an oral DHT blocker available. What most men and women want and need is a more efficacious and permanent treatment. If that means injections, so be it. As long as it works. Concerning the potential costs... If it works it will be worth the cost.

[hairysituation]

I do not believe this statement is very accurate at all. You are not paying attention to reality. Besides, men already have a topical that is easy to use and an oral DHT blocker available. What most men and women want and need is a more efficacious and permanent treatment. If that means injections, so be it. As long as it works. Concerning the potential costs... If it works it will be worth the cost.

I 100% agree with this statement. The price isn't important when it comes to these treatments, it's just don't. Btw Tracy, did you check out the new Histogen PDF file? It showed some great visual results on Women with hair loss.

[uninformed]

Now as i see it histogen is going to be a problem for many of us as we know if it is injected we need to have a clinic to administer it and that it will be quite expensive for most of us.
Also when you mention a clinic it rings alarm bells ££$$$$$ and what many of us hair loss sufferers want is a simple to use topical product that can be easy to use at home and an oral dht combo perhaps as well is this too much to ask?

funny coming from the TRX2 thread...