OC000459? (Yes that's its name)

[BaldJerry]

I see mpbtreatments is selling this stuff now. Anyone having any results?

[clarence]

Pretty well, yes.

More like waiting for CRTH2 and PDGE2 results, whatever these two terms mean... I don't know what they mean, but the reading comprehension is there, in my head!

babarbea (he's a french guy who once had some transplant done in his hairline and then lost a lot, currently not using any Fin or Minox), seems to at least have his "balding circle" reduced to some extent, already with currently available stuff, and he seems pretty knowledgeable about stuff which has just been released and stuff which is just about to be released...

[clandestine]

Pretty well, yes.

[Kirby_]

Is this experiment officially dead?

[jman91]

bump 10 charrrrrrr

[clarence]

So, what's the news with OC000459? Are people still using it as an experimental topical, and if so, any noticeable results yet

Hairlosshelp forums. That seems to be the main lair of those who are making research on OC. Here we only have speculation

[Kirby_]

So, what's the news with OC000459? Are people still using it as an experimental topical, and if so, any noticeable results yet

[Travbedaman]

A new cure is needed within 4 years as my young life will be over in 8 years. I at least want some young years of my life to be happy and full of hair.

So in 8 years how old will you be when you begin your "old" life?

[sausage]

If this does work, how much will it cost and how often would you have to apply the lotion?

Sorry, these questions are probably impossible to guess/know.

If in 2-3 years time I can rub some lotion into my round bald head that looks like an effing orange and a full head of hair comes shooting out the next day that would of course be frigging amazing. Life changing, a game changer, I'd be a different person.

But is it really possible.

A new cure is needed within 4 years as my young life will be over in 8 years. I at least want some young years of my life to be happy and full of hair.

[Kirby_]

I totally agree that we need Pharma corporations carrying out proper tests in a controlled manner, absolutely. I think that is inevitable seeing as they can't be blind to the huge profit potential.

As for my views on Histogen, I WANT to be proven wrong in my pessimism!

[gutted]

dont expect much from those testing out the OC000459, unless its controlled.
They are on a multitude of other things which are almost garauteed to blur its effects, hence why we NEED pharama companies to scientifically test this out for us in a controlled enviroment.

[yeahyeahyeah]

The main issue with Histogen versus PGD2 blockers (e.g. OC00459) is that the former isn't guaranteed to ever become a commercialised product... It may fail the long FDA process, might turn out to be a big investment scheme to create saleable patents, who knows. There's a lot of barriers to its arrival on the market more than just time. If only if it was a matter of sitting back and waiting! However, PGD2 blockers, specifically GPR44 antagonists, inevitably will be available as purchasable medications before too long. We just have to hope that the pharma companies currently developing GPR44 antagonists quickly realise the potential goldmine they're sitting on.

You are too pessimistic.

Histogen for me showed their intent when they were in legal trouble with skinmedica but still fought though.

If they were so flimsy they would have given up then, but they have just got stronger and stronger.

[Kirby_]

The main issue with Histogen versus PGD2 blockers (e.g. OC00459) is that the former isn't guaranteed to ever become a commercialised product... It may fail the long FDA process, might turn out to be a big investment scheme to create saleable patents, who knows. There's a lot of barriers to its arrival on the market more than just time. If only if it was a matter of sitting back and waiting! However, PGD2 blockers, specifically GPR44 antagonists, inevitably will be available as purchasable medications before too long. We just have to hope that the pharma companies currently developing GPR44 antagonists quickly realise the potential goldmine they're sitting on.

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

I have done something. I've had two "industry standard" HTs and I've reported back everything with photos. Acell did nothing. May have even killed the grafts waiting for transplantation. I don't know and HT docs can't or won't tell.

I've tried ketakonozil, PRP, minoxidil and propecia and I got side effects so I'm ****ed.

I provide all data back to help people make up their minds.

Very seriously. If this stuff works we need pics - I want it to work but I've seen these threads come and go for over 5 years and anmount to no cosmetic proof.

I hope this works

all right fair enough

of course we would all like for treatments such as Histogen to be effective and on the market as soon as possible but realistically with the treatments being developed today it's unlikely any of them will be available before 2015

so I'm very appreciative of guys who do stuff like get companies to manufacture OC00459 and try it on themselves...if only more people in the hair loss community get involved it won't be long before we can have good evaluations of the effectiveness of RU, OC00459, CB, RUM, PS1 et cet.

[rdawg]

Well proscar is finasteride, hardly a new treatment is it?...unless of course this was before propecia came out.

TBH I think people like you will never be happy, for the first time in MPB history, scientists have grown cosmetically significant hair on a human scalp. Have faith in histogen.

Ur mixing up his point a bit on proscar. Proscar came out in 92 and was meant for prostate problems, didnt really have a purpose for hair(although I believe scientists had an idea that it could help).

Propecia launched in 97 specifically for hair, so technically going on proscar in the early 90's was a risk because they didnt know what it fully could do or what could happen while on it for hair.

I agree with ur histogen comment though, we'll see where they are in the next update in october.