OC000459? (Yes that's its name)

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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    Originally posted by cleverusername
    BTW 2020, how is TB4?
    it's only been three days. Nothing to report as of yet

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    • Dazza
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 264

      Any news concerning this product? 2020 any updates?

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      • Troy
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 73

        Check Boldy´s posts on HLH regarding this product...

        The manufacturer producing this should post a webshop any day now (as OC000459 has been successfully produced), from wich people will be able to purchase...I think the price will be $300/g

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        • KeepHoping
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 181

          Even if you were to buy this and it came in powder form how would you go by making it into a topical?

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          • Troy
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 73

            I think OC is soluble in Ethanol and DMSO...

            I was thinking about making a vehicle like 70% (ethanol) / 30% (pg)

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            • BaldinLikeBaldwin
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 223

              thanks to the efforts of Gangsterboy OC000459 is available now at 99.51% purity

              $320/gram for the first 50 grams

              concentration between 0.1-1% recommended for the topical solution

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              • Kirby_
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 439

                How long would a gram last, theoretically? (I guess that's based on concentration.)

                Pretty excited about this BTW. I'm pessimistic about new treatments hitting local pharmacies any time soon, but off-market stuff like this could turn out to be a magic bullet.

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                • Troy
                  Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 73

                  In the patents they stated concentration anywhere between 0.1% and 1%.

                  So, if we use 1ml per day:

                  1% = 100 days

                  0.1% = 1000 days

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                  • Kiwi
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1087

                    Originally posted by Kirby_
                    How long would a gram last, theoretically? (I guess that's based on concentration.)

                    Pretty excited about this BTW. I'm pessimistic about new treatments hitting local pharmacies any time soon, but off-market stuff like this could turn out to be a magic bullet.
                    Right, so Histogen, with their 10s of millions is not going to hit the market but this home grown concoction is going to take off and give us out hair back. Genius.

                    At least Histogen have shown some before and after pics. Can anybody show us some pics???

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                    • doinmyheadin
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 123

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                      • BaldinLikeBaldwin
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 223

                        Originally posted by Kiwi
                        Right, so Histogen, with their 10s of millions is not going to hit the market but this home grown concoction is going to take off and give us out hair back. Genius.

                        At least Histogen have shown some before and after pics. Can anybody show us some pics???
                        hey I dont see you helping the cause at all

                        what's the point of just complaining and not doing anything

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                        • Kirby_
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 439

                          Originally posted by Kiwi
                          Right, so Histogen, with their 10s of millions is not going to hit the market but this home grown concoction is going to take off and give us out hair back. Genius.

                          At least Histogen have shown some before and after pics. Can anybody show us some pics???
                          Look mate, whatever you think of using experimental treatments, the guys queueing up to give OC a shot are pioneers, testing out what might turn out to be a very effective treatment. It's comparable to using Proscar off-label in the early '90s - without MPB sufferers willing to explore new avenues, we'd all be far worse off.

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                          • Kiwi
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1087

                            Originally posted by BaldinLikeBaldwin
                            hey I dont see you helping the cause at all

                            what's the point of just complaining and not doing anything
                            I have done something. I've had two "industry standard" HTs and I've reported back everything with photos. Acell did nothing. May have even killed the grafts waiting for transplantation. I don't know and HT docs can't or won't tell.

                            I've tried ketakonozil, PRP, minoxidil and propecia and I got side effects so I'm ****ed.

                            I provide all data back to help people make up their minds.

                            Very seriously. If this stuff works we need pics - I want it to work but I've seen these threads come and go for over 5 years and anmount to no cosmetic proof.

                            I hope this works

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                            • yeahyeahyeah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1776

                              Originally posted by Kirby_
                              Look mate, whatever you think of using experimental treatments, the guys queueing up to give OC a shot are pioneers, testing out what might turn out to be a very effective treatment. It's comparable to using Proscar off-label in the early '90s - without MPB sufferers willing to explore new avenues, we'd all be far worse off.
                              Well proscar is finasteride, hardly a new treatment is it?...unless of course this was before propecia came out.

                              TBH I think people like you will never be happy, for the first time in MPB history, scientists have grown cosmetically significant hair on a human scalp. Have faith in histogen.

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                              • rdawg
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 996

                                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                                Well proscar is finasteride, hardly a new treatment is it?...unless of course this was before propecia came out.

                                TBH I think people like you will never be happy, for the first time in MPB history, scientists have grown cosmetically significant hair on a human scalp. Have faith in histogen.
                                Ur mixing up his point a bit on proscar. Proscar came out in 92 and was meant for prostate problems, didnt really have a purpose for hair(although I believe scientists had an idea that it could help).

                                Propecia launched in 97 specifically for hair, so technically going on proscar in the early 90's was a risk because they didnt know what it fully could do or what could happen while on it for hair.

                                I agree with ur histogen comment though, we'll see where they are in the next update in october.

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