Progress of upcoming treatments

[sausage]

surely you could have your scalp removed and have the scalp and hair of a dead person sewn onto you head, that would solve hair loss?

or could the donor scalp not work on the recipient and end up dying and rotting away on your head.

Maybe not then.

[Kirby_]

I'm not naive enough to believe that Big Pharma has our best interests at heart (heck, see the lack of universal healthcare in the States). However I have a low tolerance for the conspiracy theory angle either, to be honest.

[NeedHairASAP]

Hey Thinning. I hate to be a negative chap. But CEO David Hall said that if phase I trials are good they would like to attract Big Pharma. I am honestly dreading the thought.

But let us not speculate, one thing at a time. First: phase I trials results. Ee can then discuss other stuff later....

Big Pharma could be good. Economies of size are what allow prices to dip below introductory prices

[Sogeking]

I know how important hope is to us all, so I hate to sound pessimistic, but one thing that bothers me about everyting that Replicel has told us so far, is that they don't seem to have figured out their distribution plan yet. In other words, if all the trials prove successful, how we will all get a Replicel treatment? Will these be done at hair transplant clinics? Dermatology offices? Also, how will treatments be administered, and who will administer them? Will the providers of the Replicel treatment need some kind of training in the procedure?

I guess my point is that there are so many unkowns that even if Replicel's procedure clears trials on schedule,this does not mean that we will all get our hair back on January 1, 2015. A truly effective baldness treatment without terrible side effects would be immensely popular, and if the providers are not on top of things, I can see all kinds of problems with shortages and distribution cropping up.

Hey Thinning. I hate to be a negative chap. But CEO David Hall said that if phase I trials are good they would like to attract Big Pharma. I am honestly dreading the thought.

But let us not speculate, one thing at a time. First: phase I trials results. Ee can then discuss other stuff later....

[HairTalk]

I actually think that because the Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, etc, trials look promising, all hair loss sufferers should be especially wary of hair transplants at this stage in the game. The next generation of hair loss treatments look promising in early trials, but there is no reason to think that they would work on the scar tissue that is created by conventional hair transplants. I would bet that all the clinical trials for the new treatments were conducted on virgin scalps. The new treatments may or may not work on transplanted scalps, we just don't know yet. One reason I haven't had a transplant myself is because I am afraid that the next generation of treatments won't work or won't be as effective on patients with transplanted hair.

I agree, but, Histogen's exclusion criteria (http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/N...istogen&rank=1) do leave me confused:

10. [...] Hair transplantation surgery during the last 6 months. [...]

12.Presence of hair transplants or scalp surgery.

So, does this or does this not mean persons who received hair-transplantation surgery more than six months prior to Histogen's study will be excluded?

[Thinning@30]

Count me in, if we see good news this year, I'll wait a few months and will start to search for good FUE doctors to fix my hairline. By the time the rest of my hair would need attention HM would already be there

I also don't see the reason why to choose Gho over a good FUE doctor. Gho might offer regrowth (and that is still unconfirmed), but it's way more expensive. And people overreact about FUE scarring, I never read anyone complain about it before Gho started to sound again

Concerning Aderans, even if they only bring half of the density, I'm in. I can buzz it for the rest of my life

I actually think that because the Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, etc, trials look promising, all hair loss sufferers should be especially wary of hair transplants at this stage in the game. The next generation of hair loss treatments look promising in early trials, but there is no reason to think that they would work on the scar tissue that is created by conventional hair transplants. I would bet that all the clinical trials for the new treatments were conducted on virgin scalps. The new treatments may or may not work on transplanted scalps, we just don't know yet. One reason I haven't had a transplant myself is because I am afraid that the next generation of treatments won't work or won't be as effective on patients with transplanted hair.

[Thinning@30]

I know how important hope is to us all, so I hate to sound pessimistic, but one thing that bothers me about everyting that Replicel has told us so far, is that they don't seem to have figured out their distribution plan yet. In other words, if all the trials prove successful, how we will all get a Replicel treatment? Will these be done at hair transplant clinics? Dermatology offices? Also, how will treatments be administered, and who will administer them? Will the providers of the Replicel treatment need some kind of training in the procedure?

I guess my point is that there are so many unkowns that even if Replicel's procedure clears trials on schedule,this does not mean that we will all get our hair back on January 1, 2015. A truly effective baldness treatment without terrible side effects would be immensely popular, and if the providers are not on top of things, I can see all kinds of problems with shortages and distribution cropping up.

[DotheDewNorwood2]

Hope3, thanks for channeling the info. I really appreciate it. My fingers are crossed.

[HairTalk]

Hey DTD, I was told by their director of communications via email that the phase 1 results would be released in late March and they hope to start the phase 2 injections in the fall of 2012. She then said that 2015 was a realistic goal for RepliCel to be available to the public.

Let's bear in mind, whether RepliCel ever proceeds to phase-II testing will depend on the results of phase-I: until those results come in, no one has any clue to whether this procedure will be successful.

I'm sorry if this sounds overtly negative, but I don't feel it's sensible to get one's hopes up very easily — especially not in the hair-restoration industry.

[nrj]

Hey DTD, I was told by their director of communications via email that the phase 1 results would be released in late March and they hope to start the phase 2 injections in the fall of 2012. She then said that 2015 was a realistic goal for RepliCel to be available to the public.

excellent !! lets hope we havent lost too much hair by then

[Have Hope3]

RepliCel

Is anyone else waiting for Replicel data from Phase I to be released. If so, does anyone know when? I feel like this could be the biggest game changer in the hair loss industry. And yes, if positive results are shown in HM in 2012, I will start saving for a hair transplant too.

Hey DTD, I was told by their director of communications via email that the phase 1 results would be released in late March and they hope to start the phase 2 injections in the fall of 2012. She then said that 2015 was a realistic goal for RepliCel to be available to the public.

[nrj]

A guy who works in my building has obviously had FUE.... a lot of FUE. His doner zone is so depleted he has a big bald patch at the back of his head. I don't know what doctor did it but it looks pretty bad.

But for all that, I can't see a single scar on the back of his head, and I've looked pretty carefully when I've been behind him in the elevator. It's just really sparse.

I figure a doctor who is so eager to fleece money out of his patients he'd do that probably isn't the greatest surgeon in the world, but even so he's managed to do it without noticeable scarring. I guess some guys get the white shotgun scars and some just don't.

Incidentally he is what really put me off FUE and transplants in general. On top of the bald patch he has a really unnatural head of hair, too thin overall and noticeably thicker but still unnatural looking for about half an inch at the hairline. Judging on family history I'm almost certain to end up a full NW6 and this guy is proof that a NW6 just does not generally have enough donor hair to look natural.

I would have to be pretty damn certain Replicel or Aderans is going to work in the near future before I went under the knife.

fair enough, but its 1 guy at 1 surgeon.

In theory enough procedures with Dr. Gho should give you a full head of hair with around 80-90% regeneration.

[Pate]

Also you dont know if you will ever shave your head just for fun or mabe illness or something. And then nice white shootgun holes in the back of your head will make you look disfigured as a linear scar would, and thats the end of the story

A guy who works in my building has obviously had FUE.... a lot of FUE. His doner zone is so depleted he has a big bald patch at the back of his head. I don't know what doctor did it but it looks pretty bad.

But for all that, I can't see a single scar on the back of his head, and I've looked pretty carefully when I've been behind him in the elevator. It's just really sparse.

I figure a doctor who is so eager to fleece money out of his patients he'd do that probably isn't the greatest surgeon in the world, but even so he's managed to do it without noticeable scarring. I guess some guys get the white shotgun scars and some just don't.

Incidentally he is what really put me off FUE and transplants in general. On top of the bald patch he has a really unnatural head of hair, too thin overall and noticeably thicker but still unnatural looking for about half an inch at the hairline. Judging on family history I'm almost certain to end up a full NW6 and this guy is proof that a NW6 just does not generally have enough donor hair to look natural.

I would have to be pretty damn certain Replicel or Aderans is going to work in the near future before I went under the knife.

[RichardDawkins]

Well thats your opinion but if i have the chance, i will do it right from the start, because you simply dont know if you ever need donor hair again. And you can go to your FUE guy but i would sta with HST thats it.

I dont care if i had to go to Gho two times instead of one time (FUE surgery) as long as i have not wasted any donor, have a lesser downtime and no shotgun scars.

Also you dont know if you will ever shave your head just for fun or mabe illness or something. And then nice white shootgun holes in the back of your head will make you look disfigured as a linear scar would, and thats the end of the story

[Pate]

Is anyone else waiting for Replicel data from Phase I to be released.

LOL. Only every single man and woman in Spencer's following!

Results should be available hopefully by the end of March 2012.