Progress of upcoming treatments

[Maradona]

For the guys considering stopping Propecia, just keep in mind that Replicel, Histogen etc may not be fully effective on bald scalp. They may (and probably will) be more effective at regenerating damaged follicles that still have all the supporting anatomy there, than regrowing new ones in areas where the follicles are dead and the fat layer that supports them has wasted away.

So even though I don't like Propecia, I plan to keep taking it until CB-03-01 or something topical is available, because I want those follicles to be as healthy as possible by the time Replicel or Histogen is available.

I also use minox and Nizoral for the same reason. They may not be growing much hair back (except in the crown where I had good regrowth) but the way I see it, even slowing down the balding process is a positive result, keeping these hair follicles in the best condition possible.

Re the comment about hair becoming boring when there's a cure... I think that when there is a full cure for hairloss (by which I mean 100% regrowth NW1) and baldness is a choice, a lot of the social stigma over baldness will vanish.

good point bro, if replicel works it's not gonna hide anything though. replicel ain't like other companies you know...they will reveal everything on april.

And you pose a good question that joe from staten island might ask to replicel after their superawesome results.

[clandestine]

And you pose a good question that joe from staten island might ask to replicel after their superawesome results.

Personally I get weird vibes from 'Joe from Staten Island' when listening to him on the bald truth talk. Not to talk shit or pass judgement unnecessarily, but I feel at his age he's focusing a little more on his hair loss than he is his family /his kids. I listened to an episode where it was discussed how his (ten year old?) child had verbalized concerns regarding hair loss. Your focus becomes your reality, and one should be cautious when acting the position of a role model. As I've said previously, we should by no means let this condition dictate our lives, and /or become especially obsessive over it. Not healthy. Just an observation.

[Pate]

Let's wait and see what Replicel tell us straight up in April. Then we can evaluate it, discuss it, and decide what points we need to ask them, and then somebody can e-mail them.

As a publicly-listed company interested in growing their exposure I expect them to be a lot more forthcoming and open than Follica or Aderans.

They are pretty good at answering stuff on their facebook page too. Which is impressive given the amount of idiotic questions that get asked, they must get tired of it!

[DepressedByHairLoss]

For the guys considering stopping Propecia, just keep in mind that Replicel, Histogen etc may not be fully effective on bald scalp. They may (and probably will) be more effective at regenerating damaged follicles that still have all the supporting anatomy there, than regrowing new ones in areas where the follicles are dead and the fat layer that supports them has wasted away.

So even though I don't like Propecia, I plan to keep taking it until CB-03-01 or something topical is available, because I want those follicles to be as healthy as possible by the time Replicel or Histogen is available.

I also use minox and Nizoral for the same reason. They may not be growing much hair back (except in the crown where I had good regrowth) but the way I see it, even slowing down the balding process is a positive result, keeping these hair follicles in the best condition possible.

Re the comment about hair becoming boring when there's a cure... I think that when there is a full cure for hairloss (by which I mean 100% regrowth NW1) and baldness is a choice, a lot of the social stigma over baldness will vanish.

I disagree bro. I think Replicel's goal is to create new follicles and to repair damaged ones. So according to Replicel's goals, they're attempting to create a full head of hair no matter how bald a person is. And BTW, I cannot f'n stand the social stigma of baldness. I get so pissed off when I see that ****in dick Larry David making fun of baldness. Imagine if some one made fun of some one's race or ethnicity like many people do about baldness. They'd be booted off the air so fast that their head would spin. Look at what happened to his compatriot Michael Richards. That's something that really pisses me off.

[Pate]

I disagree bro. I think Replicel's goal is to create new follicles and to repair damaged ones. So according to Replicel's goals, they're attempting to create a full head of hair no matter how bald a person is. And BTW, I cannot f'n stand the social stigma of baldness. I get so pissed off when I see that ****in dick Larry David making fun of baldness. Imagine if some one made fun of some one's race or ethnicity like many people do about baldness. They'd be booted off the air so fast that their head would spin. Look at what happened to his compatriot Michael Richards. That's something that really pisses me off.

That's definitely Replicel's goal, yeah. And they can create SOME hair on the foot pads of mice so they can definitely create new follicles from scratch. But they can create a lot more hair on areas that already support hair ie mouse ears.

So it could be that the process works better on areas that aren't totally bald. We just don't know. I personally think it's unlikely that the first iteration of Replicel will grow back a full density NW1 on a NW7 scalp. I think the first iteration will likely grow a few new hairs and regenerate a lot of damaged ones.

But I hope I am wrong and you are right. In fact I will never be so happy to be wrong about something in my life.

And yeah I hear you about making fun of baldness. I am 30 and a lot of younger guys in particular when I'm out at a bar think it's funny to try and put me down in front of women. You would never make fun of somebody's race in that situation, or even if they were overweight, you wouldn't make fun of them for that. But baldness is fair game?

It actually depresses me not so much because of the baldness (which I have come to accept) but because it makes me realise that a high percentage of people are just dicks.

[Sogeking]

That's definitely Replicel's goal, yeah. And they can create SOME hair on the foot pads of mice so they can definitely create new follicles from scratch. But they can create a lot more hair on areas that already support hair ie mouse ears.

So it could be that the process works better on areas that aren't totally bald. We just don't know. I personally think it's unlikely that the first iteration of Replicel will grow back a full density NW1 on a NW7 scalp. I think the first iteration will likely grow a few new hairs and regenerate a lot of damaged ones.

But I hope I am wrong and you are right. In fact I will never be so happy to be wrong about something in my life.

And yeah I hear you about making fun of baldness. I am 30 and a lot of younger guys in particular when I'm out at a bar think it's funny to try and put me down in front of women. You would never make fun of somebody's race in that situation, or even if they were overweight, you wouldn't make fun of them for that. But baldness is fair game?

It actually depresses me not so much because of the baldness (which I have come to accept) but because it makes me realise that a high percentage of people are just dicks.

Thats because they want to make themselves feel better. And in the same time try to derogate you. Thus you chances are lower.

We are all lacking in something, and we all have flaws, our misfortune was that we got the flaw which is visible...

I too hope that Replicel can make grow new hair follicles, but I think Pate is right in his speculation. However that so far it is just speculation. I am just waiting for April. And hoping .

[clandestine]

We are all lacking in something, and we all have flaws, our misfortune was that we got the flaw which is visible...

Truth. Agree.

[Seb89]

Really good thread in terms of debate.

In terms of the whole curing baldness thing, tbh I think someone out there will be looking at a one pill wonder cure to eradicate baldness totally. Just my utter fantasy of an opinion mind, but as someone pointed out only 10% of men actually try to do something about it.

That figure would probably be reversed and only about 10% wouldnt bother fixing it if an actual affordable cure came on the market.

The amount they could make if someone found this cure would be ridiculous, it would far dwarf what they make now.

People will always go bald, thats what histroy has taught us, so there will always be new clients to get. Even if its only a one time client, they will still always make cash.

[sausage]

Only 10% of people do anything about it....thats not a surprise.

I can see why people that start balding past 40 don't worry about it too much.
Although I have seen photos on here of a 72 year old's HT, I mean WTF, your a few years from death and you have a HT, madness!

There is nothing decent out there to stop hairloss so no wonder only 10% do something about it. Hair transplants are out of peoples budgets and generally have a bad name for themselves anyway....although with many celebrities having HT's which look good then that 10% figure will go up.

Also in the UK minoxidil sales are bound to have gone up in recent years because of the constant adverts for it on TV. Many people losing their hair will be conned in thinking this will get their hair back.

Not sure when that 10% figure arose (I expect a few years back) but its probably a bit higher these days.

For under 30's the figure would be a lot higher.

[StressedToTheBald]

Really good thread in terms of debate.

In terms of the whole curing baldness thing, tbh I think someone out there will be looking at a one pill wonder cure to eradicate baldness totally. Just my utter fantasy of an opinion mind, but as someone pointed out only 10% of men actually try to do something about it.

That figure would probably be reversed and only about 10% wouldnt bother fixing it if an actual affordable cure came on the market.

The amount they could make if someone found this cure would be ridiculous, it would far dwarf what they make now.

People will always go bald, thats what histroy has taught us, so there will always be new clients to get. Even if its only a one time client, they will still always make cash.

I wouldn't bet my remaining hair on that.
True - a one time cure would bring billions. But hair industry is already earning billions, propecia, rogaine, hair transplants.. Use common sense - if You were a manufacturer or a hair surgeon, earning a fortune each year - would You really be in a hurry to potentially end Your current and future guaranteed & extremely high cash flow ?

Consider that a one time real cure would overall be cheaper, You wouldn't have to buy it each month, each year and so on for the rest of Your life like with the current 'proven 3', nor would You have to pay thousands and thousands for hair transplant or other 'treatments & products'.

If a cure was developed, companies would get a small one time amount from each bald guy and thats it, only the new generations would bring additional profits.. This way, as things are today - profits are made for life ! For life and both from current and upcoming generations.

Its in our interest for the cure to be found. But is it really in theirs ? Use common sense, the answer is sadly NO !

[2020]

I wouldn't bet my remaining hair on that.
True - a one time cure would bring billions. But hair industry is already earning billions, propecia, rogaine, hair transplants.. Use common sense - if You were a manufacturer or a hair surgeon, earning a fortune each year - would You really be in a hurry to potentially end Your current and future guaranteed & extremely high cash flow ?

Consider that a one time real cure would overall be cheaper, You wouldn't have to buy it each month, each year and so on for the rest of Your life like with the current 'proven 3', nor would You have to pay thousands and thousands for hair transplant or other 'treatments & products'.

If a cure was developed, companies would get a small one time amount from each bald guy and thats it, only the new generations would bring additional profits.. This way, as things are today - profits are made for life ! For life and both from current and upcoming generations.

Its in our interest for the cure to be found. But is it really in theirs ? Use common sense, the answer is sadly NO !

you stupid idiot... read my previous post.

What do you mean by HAIR INDUSTRY!? Hair industry is just a term for a group of companies that specialize in hair. Those companies operate INDIVIDUALLY, they COMPETE!
A dollar earned by Propecia is in theory a dollar loss for Rogaine and every other company that's part of the "hair industry". It's in their BEST INTEREST to come up with something better than Propecia to steer all that money flow to them and the best way to do it is to COME UP WITH A BETTER PRODUCT.
What part of this stops some company for finding a cure? Whoever does that will effectively destroy every competitor so why the hell not??

there is no ****ing conspiracy here. stop being so bitter.

[Morbo]

When you're 40 or older and you start balding it's just a natural process of life.
Most of us are however here because we're prematurely balding. We are in our 20's, early 30's or even teenage years. We're in a stage of our life where our looks and more importantly our confidence is just a very important factor in making decisions and how we develop ourselves. We want to be the best we can be when we look for our potential life-partner or dream-job. We want to look young at the age we're at still young and not be regarded as 10 years older already.

TBH when I'm eventually 40, (hopefully) married, have kids, the job I wan't and suddenly a cure for baldness comes on the market; not sure if I'd still care.
If it's affortable, sure always a bonus, but I won't keep my sleep for it by then.

[StressedToTheBald]

Most of us are however here because we're prematurely balding. We are in our 20's, early 30's or even teenage years. We're in a stage of our life where our looks and more importantly our confidence is just a very important factor in making decisions and how we develop ourselves. We want to be the best we can be when we look for our potential life-partner or dream-job. We want to look young at the age we're at still young and not be regarded as 10 years older already.

Well said. Nature has been cruel to us, its not right that teens or us in 20s or 30s have the hair like old men in their 80s. It is about selfconfidence. Although not a disease - it feels like one and it kills confidence for sure.

[clandestine]

you stupid idiot... read my previous post.[...]Whoever does that will effectively destroy every competitor so why the hell not??[...]there is no ****ing conspiracy here. stop being so bitter.

Wow. Learn how to debate with respect for others, or get the **** off these forums.

[2020]

Wow. Learn how to debate with respect for others, or get the **** off these forums.

I'm just tired of the crap he's posting...