Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • Davey Jones
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 356

    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    I remember when I used Revita, I experienced a shed. Without really shedding if you get my drift.

    It's active ingredient was keto.

    So dont think its a good idea to use niz more then once a week - will alternate with my organic shampoo.

    btw how much of the niz do you put on your hands before shampooing.
    Yeah, I hope it's not hurting my hair. Like I said, I use it for oil control at this point, which it does really well. I did start using it to retain hair, but it's hard to tell with how short I keep it.

    But from purely anecdote, I've heard people saying every other day worked best for them when using the 1%. I typically use a little pool, about the size of a dime, in my palm. That is after washing my hair with an organic shampoo first.

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    • yeahyeahyeah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1776

      As long as you can maintain, that is more then enough. I am hoping this regime can help me maintain until new treatments come out.

      I really like toco-8.

      Just so that others know I am on a weight training program as well. Have not experienced hairloss.

      I take it that you are a low norwood as well?...I keep my hair longish.

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      • sausage
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1063

        I just received my 2nd pot of Toco-8 through the post.....

        The consistency and taste of this one is different from the first.

        The first was a dry powder which tasted like paint powder that kids use to paint with.

        This second one is not as dry, it sticks together more and tastes different, it seems to have more of a taste to it, slightly sweet.

        Has anyone noticed differences between theirs?

        It has been hot in the UK the past few days so I think that may have caused it, I keep it in a draw but it has been very hot and stuffy in my room the past 3 days.

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        • ovoxo
          Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 72

          toco

          have some of you experienced initial shed or increased shed when started taking toco?

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            Originally posted by sausage
            I just received my 2nd pot of Toco-8 through the post.....

            The consistency and taste of this one is different from the first.

            The first was a dry powder which tasted like paint powder that kids use to paint with.

            This second one is not as dry, it sticks together more and tastes different, it seems to have more of a taste to it, slightly sweet.

            Has anyone noticed differences between theirs?

            It has been hot in the UK the past few days so I think that may have caused it, I keep it in a draw but it has been very hot and stuffy in my room the past 3 days.
            Put it in the fridge.

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            • yeahyeahyeah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1776

              Ok its been 2 and a half months Toco 8 combined with a rigorous exercise program. Hair can be seen here:

              - High norwoods with bald patches or thinning hair. When you started going noticeably bald, were you shedding a lot, if so how many hairs? And what other visible signs were there aside from your hair getting thinner?


              my hairloss is not significant, so I am looking to maintain if anything

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              • Maradona
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 822

                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                Ok its been 2 and a half months Toco 8 combined with a rigorous exercise program. Hair can be seen here:

                - High norwoods with bald patches or thinning hair. When you started going noticeably bald, were you shedding a lot, if so how many hairs? And what other visible signs were there aside from your hair getting thinner?


                my hairloss is not significant, so I am looking to maintain if anything
                totally stabilized dude. You should be good for 5 years at least.

                Whatever you're doing , keep doing .

                Wish i could have your hair in 5 years we may have CB or histogen.

                where are you buying your toco and which one?

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1776

                  Originally posted by Maradona
                  totally stabilized dude. You should be good for 5 years at least.

                  Whatever you're doing , keep doing .

                  Wish i could have your hair in 5 years we may have CB or histogen.

                  where are you buying your toco and which one?
                  CB sounds like a pain in the ass to apply tbh. Histogen is what I am interested in.

                  I am using the following one:



                  Just so that you are aware, it has only been 2 months since I have been using it. For the past 2 years I have been using this shampoo:

                  Discover feel-good skin care with Green People’s natural and organic beauty products, with sustainably grown ingredients. FREE UK delivery available.


                  Hardly ever wax my hair either

                  I take a multi vitamin too

                  My hair definently looks a lot healthier now, then back at university, where it was stringy as hell.

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                  • whyohwhy
                    Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 35

                    Originally posted by sausage
                    I just received my 2nd pot of Toco-8 through the post.....

                    The consistency and taste of this one is different from the first.

                    The first was a dry powder which tasted like paint powder that kids use to paint with.

                    This second one is not as dry, it sticks together more and tastes different, it seems to have more of a taste to it, slightly sweet.

                    Has anyone noticed differences between theirs?

                    It has been hot in the UK the past few days so I think that may have caused it, I keep it in a draw but it has been very hot and stuffy in my room the past 3 days.

                    Yes mate they have changed it and added a filler in the new toco-8, instead of being one scoop it is now 2 scoops and only lasts 30 days, they have doubled the dose and filled it with more of something else, have a look on the bottle....it really pissed me off

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                    • NotBelievingIt
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 594

                      Quite honestly I'm not even bothering to watch my hair while taking it.

                      Obsessing about it doesnt help the psyche. Besides, what if the power of Toco8 is in stopping/slowing loss and not regrowth necessarily? Unless you were a fast shedder, or anal about photo taking and nitting over the pictures, you aren't going to notice if its helping to maintain whats present until a long time has passed.

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                      • Conpecia
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 904

                        Hey guys, any updates on toco-8 or whatever else you're using? Clandestine? Any of you other people who hopped on early this year?

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                        • clandestine
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2002

                          Originally posted by Conpecia
                          Hey guys, any updates on toco-8 or whatever else you're using? Clandestine? Any of you other people who hopped on early this year?
                          I've been taking it [almost] every day for around 3 months now. Recently left my last container somewhere and have been using Tocomin SupraBio pills in its place; will order more toco-8 soon.

                          Nothing major to report; hair worsening over time.

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                          • Davey Jones
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 356

                            Originally posted by Conpecia
                            Hey guys, any updates on toco-8 or whatever else you're using? Clandestine? Any of you other people who hopped on early this year?
                            I'm through a container of Toco-8 and on to trying out Tocosorb for a bottle. Nothing much to report. Hair looks about the same when I grow it out a tad (which is a rare). It could be worse, but it's hard to tell so short. It is definitely not better though.

                            This is not necessarily a criticism of tocotrienol/tocopherol supplements, yet. As we all know, treating hairloss is a painfully slow (and typically fruitless) endeavor.

                            I do feel healthier in general, but I've made a lot of changes over the last few months, so it's hard to attribute that to any one thing. I never really felt the increased libido some people claim to have experienced, and my beard/chest hair is about the same thickness as always. I'll come back to report if I notice any difference with this bottle of tocosorb.

                            PS, Clandestine, you're a post away from #666. You should make it special.

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                            • clandestine
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2002

                              Originally posted by Davey Jones
                              PS, Clandestine, you're a post away from #666. You should make it special.
                              ! You're right!

                              EDIT: Oops.

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                              • NotBelievingIt
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 594

                                Interesting. It appears PrimeOrdial Performance has changed their dosage for Toco 8 from one scoop per day to two. I know that was not what it was when I bought it originally.


                                Toco-Sorb:


                                So...how is 57mg + 15mg equal to 375mg? Even if you count all four -trienols as 57mg each, that only comes up to 225mg.

                                Also, saying "complex" to me would mean all encompassing. Since Toco Sorb leaves out 3 of the -pherols, not sure it should claim that.

                                At least the numbers for Toco8 add up.

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