Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    • Jan 2012
    • 452

    Originally posted by doesitwork
    Well, apparently there may be a way to thrwart genetics.

    If DHT exerts its destructive behavior by enlisting super oxide, which damages follicles, Search "superoxide" in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2956962/ - this is where tocotrienols might come in, as these potent antioxidants can neutralize superoxide.
    Many thanks for that link doesitwork, I'll have a good look into this study.

    I recall reading somewhere btw. that vitamin E can help? in sense of providing more? oxigen to hair folicles - question is if this works topical or orally ? I doubt any topical form would do the trick as oxigen is delivered via bloodstream. Also vitamin E comes in at least 4 types..

    This reminded me of something that might be related. Amino acid called Arginine is said to play vital role in nitric oxide which may also be crucial for fighting hair loss. Via protein supplement I am currently taking 3,000mg+ of L-Arginine daily and plan to increase - but this is my first month so I can't say if it does any good just yet, along with other stuff that I also use daily.

    I already found sth about nitric oxide from the link You provided - seems that nitric oxide is a good one !

    "Nitric oxide (NO) initiates and maintains hair growth while superoxide inhibits hair growth. Use of arginine can enhance NO and promote angiogenesis for new hair growth.[15]"

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    • VictimOfDHT
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 747

      Originally posted by goldbondmafia
      That is BIG news if true
      That's not "big news". It's a fact that completely bald heads have hair on them but the hairs are so tiny that you can barely see them. Which means the follicles are there but for some god damn reason they're producing "invisible" hairs.

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      • KeepHoping
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        • Dec 2010
        • 181

        Does anyone know if there is a source to get toco-8 for cheap, because you need at least a bottle a month if you take two scoops.

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        • clandestine
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2002

          Originally posted by KeepHoping
          Does anyone know if there is a source to get toco-8 for cheap, because you need at least a bottle a month if you take two scoops.
          Seconded. Where'd mrmanns run off to?

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          • KeepHoping
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 181

            Also is their really much difference between toco-sorb and something like this that is cheaper: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HRG00...LAID=956279346

            thanks.

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1513

              Originally posted by KeepHoping
              Also is their really much difference between toco-sorb and something like this that is cheaper: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HRG00...LAID=956279346

              thanks.
              toco-sorb IS NOT THE SAME as toco-8....

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              • clandestine
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 2002

                What's the difference?

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                • 2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1513

                  Originally posted by clandestine
                  What's the difference?
                  not the same ingredients.




                  ... there is a reason why toco-sorb is cheaper

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                  • StressedToTheBald
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                    • Jan 2012
                    • 452

                    On first sight that toco 8 seems to offer higher concentration in the mix.. but also its much more expensive, so better calculate if You plan to purchase one or another..

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                    • 2020
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                      • Jan 2012
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                      but it doesn't have the same ingredients... only the toco-8 mix was patented. Others are just imitations

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                      • doesitwork
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 20

                        There are three real Tocomin SupraBio products

                        Originally posted by 2020
                        but it doesn't have the same ingredients... only the toco-8 mix was patented. Others are just imitations
                        There are three real Tocomin SupraBio products.

                        1. Jarrow Formulas makes Toco-Sorb.
                        2. Toco-8 by Primordial Performance uses the same raw material - Tocomin SupraBio
                        3. And Life Extension Foundation makes Super Absorbable Tocotrienols, which also uses the Tocomin SupraBio licensed raw material.

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                        • doesitwork
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                          • Jan 2012
                          • 20

                          Swansonvitamins.com sells Toco-Sorb for about half price.

                          Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                          On first sight that toco 8 seems to offer higher concentration in the mix.. but also its much more expensive, so better calculate if You plan to purchase one or another..
                          The best price for the real tocotrienols is to buy Jarrow Toco-Sorb from swansonvitamins.com.

                          It's about half price of the toco-8 best price.

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                          • doesitwork
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 20

                            Tocotrienols are far more potent than the d-alpha tocopherol form of vitamin E.

                            Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                            Many thanks for that link doesitwork, I'll have a good look into this study.

                            I recall reading somewhere btw. that vitamin E can help? in sense of providing more? oxigen to hair folicles - question is if this works topical or orally ? I doubt any topical form would do the trick as oxigen is delivered via bloodstream. Also vitamin E comes in at least 4 types..

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                            Well, tocotrienols have as much as 60 times more activity than the d-alpha tocopherol form of vitamin E used orally. So if oxygenation is part of the mode of action, then tocotrienols would trump the popular d-alpha tocopherol.

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                            • clandestine
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2002

                              Originally posted by doesitwork
                              The best price for the real tocotrienols is to buy Jarrow Toco-Sorb from swansonvitamins.com.

                              It's about half price of the toco-8 best price.
                              doesitwork; Another user stated Toco-sorb contains different ingredients than Toco-8. From your experience, is it just as effective? Worth paying more for Toco-8? Curious to hear your opinion.

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                              • doesitwork
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 20

                                Swansonvitamins.com sells tocotrienols for about half price.

                                Originally posted by clandestine
                                doesitwork; Another user stated Toco-sorb contains different ingredients than Toco-8. From your experience, is it just as effective? Worth paying more for Toco-8? Curious to hear your opinion.
                                All three "toco" products use the same Carotech Tocomin SupraBio ingredients. The tocotrienol balance is the same. Toco-8 added some bells and whistles, that don't make more hair grow.

                                The bottom line is if you add them all up, Swansons sells the important tocotrienols for about half what the best price I found for Toco-8's equilibrant.

                                If you know supplements, you've gotta love Swansonvitamins.com.

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