Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[clandestine]

Ok, this stupid thread NEEDS to be -and SHOULD- be taken down. I'm sick and tired of people popping up every now and then with some new crazy claim. Lasers, Mico, TRX, and now this Toco .... and what's even worse is that a lot of people actually believe these lunatics and their absurd claims. No wonder the snake oil industry can make billions of dollars on the backs of the gullible. It's so easy to fool people. It's easier than taking candy from a baby.

So basically there's a cure for baldness (this Toco crap) but it's a secret that apparently only a few know about. Wow! I didn't know it was so easy to cure baldness. God damn it! And we've been suffering all this time and going through shit and spending thousands of dollars on HTs and drugs....and it was as simple as taking some stupid vitamin or whatever that shit (Toco) is. Huh! Sometimes a lie is too big or stupid to believe.

Wonderful post, Victim. Good contribution.

Just an aside, have you tried toco personally? Are you then able to make accurate statements regarding efficacy of said treatment? Or what you're saying merely conjecture?

[klsee1]

Personally I think TOCO / TocoSorb works for improving hair thinning / regrowth as long as the follicle cells are active... and it takes time for TOCO / TocoSorb to rescue / improve these cells and hairs...

Here is a personal experience after using TOCO / TocoSorb... http://www.michaelmooney.net/hair.html....

[gutted]

We have members who tried TRX2 for around 9 months, some longer. Maybe I'm just hungover mate, but I can't see what you're getting at.

How long do merck say to take propecia for? 12-18 months before results are fully visible, possibly earlier due to the stage of hair loss your at. Its the same timeframe you should give ANY treatment your on to see if it has benifited you or not.

As stated earlier some of those members (a group of 3/4?) were not soley using trx2, which brings in variables, so thier word is hardly reliable.

[VictimOfDHT]

Wonderful post, Victim. Good contribution.

Just an aside, have you tried toco personally? Are you then able to make accurate statements regarding efficacy of said treatment? Or what you're saying merely conjecture?

Thanks, clandestine.

No. I've never tried toco myself. But claims like "it grows hair like crazy" is more than enough for me to know it's not legit or credible. Something that works that good (to thicken/grow hair) won't be a secret. If it sounds too good to be true then most likely it is.

[Conpecia]

Again, I am going to give it a shot for 2012 because of the study mentioned several times in this thread, the relatively cheap cost of a 3 month supply of the same pill used in the study, and sheer curiosity. Am I under the impression that taking this pill will cure my hair loss once and for all and bring me to a thick NW1 or 0? Of course not. But it may help keep what I have left before more advanced treatments are available, so it's worth a shot. I will post results should I see any improvements. We should be more scientific about things in this forum instead of bickering all the time.

[Conpecia]

Personally I think TOCO / TocoSorb works for improving hair thinning / regrowth as long as the follicle cells are active... and it takes time for TOCO / TocoSorb to rescue / improve these cells and hairs...

Here is a personal experience after using TOCO / TocoSorb... http://www.michaelmooney.net/hair.html....

Excellent site.

[doesitwork]

First, tocotrienols are not vitamin E, from a scientific standpoint. Only d-alpha tocopherol is vitamin E.

Next, the way that tocotrienols might work is by their antioxidant action reducing super oxide, or other reactive oxygen species, which are destructive oxidative molecules that damage hair follicles.

If improvements in microcirculation are involved, well, that might give an additive effect.

"Vitamin E helps with the growth of capillaries. When there are more capillaries, the circulation improves and it is thought that the improved circulation to the scalp is the trigger for preventing hair loss."

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

[doesitwork]

Again, I am going to give it a shot for 2012 because of the study mentioned several times in this thread, the relatively cheap cost of a 3 month supply of the same pill used in the study, and sheer curiosity. Am I under the impression that taking this pill will cure my hair loss once and for all and bring me to a thick NW1 or 0? Of course not. But it may help keep what I have left before more advanced treatments are available, so it's worth a shot. I will post results should I see any improvements. We should be more scientific about things in this forum instead of bickering all the time.

Sounds smart. Just remember, it takes at least five months, and maybe more like eight months before any real solution is going to have an effect.

I've tried Toco-Sorb along with a doctor friend and we both saw a significant improvement in our hair count, which friends and family NOTICED. It's not a maybe. I had a friend who I hadn't seen in two years who said the difference in my hair was quite clear.

I had one friend who I hadn't seen in several months say first thing, "Your hair is thicker. You look younger. What are you doing?"

[doesitwork]

Thanks, clandestine.

No. I've never tried toco myself. But claims like "it grows hair like crazy" is more than enough for me to know it's not legit or credible. Something that works that good (to thicken/grow hair) won't be a secret. If it sounds too good to be true then most likely it is.

Like crazy is crazy, but it worked for me - enough that friends and family ALL said they noticed a change in my hair thickness, meaning the number of hairs on my hair, especially up front, where I had lost the most. His barber noticed it along with everyone he works with.

But it does take at five to eight months. Five for me and six for my doctor friend. And the study was an eight month study. I assume because they wanted to capture the most effect with the most of their subjects.

[doesitwork]

It worked for me.

Thanks, clandestine.

No. I've never tried toco myself. But claims like "it grows hair like crazy" is more than enough for me to know it's not legit or credible. Something that works that good (to thicken/grow hair) won't be a secret. If it sounds too good to be true then most likely it is.

Like crazy is crazy, but it worked for me - enough that friends and family ALL said they noticed a change in my hair thickness, meaning the number of hairs on my hair, especially up front, where I had lost the most. And my friend, who is a doctor had the same effect. And his barber noticed it along with everyone he works with.

But it does take at five to eight months. Five for me and six for my doctor friend. And the study was an eight month study. I assume because they wanted to capture the most effect with the most of their subjects.

[doesitwork]

It took five months for me

Toco 8 is definitely potent, watch how fast a shaven beard grows back. You'll see it the first week you're on it

I'll say give it about 3 months for you see real hair growth on your scalp, before then you'll see little fuzz hairs growing

I noticed it in five months. I'd say don't give up the ship in three months. At five not only me but friends noticed it, too.

[2020]

how come so many newly registered users report good results, when everyone else says that it's useless

[Morbo]

Take a wild guess.

[KeepHoping]

How much of the Toco-sorb do you guys take a day?

[2020]

How much of the Toco-sorb do you guys take a day?

toco-sorb and toco-8 are very different...